tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post1086054792848598755..comments2024-03-18T13:50:45.615-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: 90210, "We're Not in Kansas Anymore": That sounds like a pig fainting!Alan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88838610643611327062008-09-28T08:36:00.000-04:002008-09-28T08:36:00.000-04:00I was re-watching Season 2 of the Wire and saw The...I was re-watching Season 2 of the Wire and saw The Bunk in his lacrosse sweatshirt. I noticed someone else noticed the lacrosse connection. Elsewhere, it was posted that Tristan wore the maroon and khaki uniform of Episode 4. <BR/><BR/>The producers are self-described Wire fans--which I appreciate since they hired Tristan Wilds. So are the writers of The Office--yet those writers seem to be more in the same league, at this point: clever and patient, allowing storylines to unfold more organically, somehow. I'm giving 90210 a chance. I'm rooting for these writers--for the sake of Tristan Wilds and in the spirit of cheering on all Wire alum and fans.Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15768051300360570185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-86215932275176793062008-09-05T09:31:00.000-04:002008-09-05T09:31:00.000-04:00What did everybody else think?Alan - i thought it ...What did everybody else think?<BR/><BR/>Alan - i thought it was okay but nothing special. But tbh i wasn't expecting much.<BR/><BR/>The first half was awful and the second part was alittle bit better. Overall the acting from most of the younger actors was bad.<BR/><BR/>At the moment my favourite characters are Navid, Grandma Wilson and Dixon.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand Ethan is dull and Annie slightly annoying.<BR/><BR/>I'll definitely give this show a chance. I'm sure it will improve and i love my teen drama's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-13950395241923280722008-09-05T00:07:00.000-04:002008-09-05T00:07:00.000-04:00>>As my husband said about the short-lived b...>>As my husband said about the short-lived but awesome Bruce Campbell show "Jack of all Trades": If you're expecting historical accuracy from a show where the main characters get their orders from a parrot dressed like a pirate, you're kind of missing the point.<<<BR/><BR/>I'm really going to have to steal that line. Awesome. <BR/><BR/>I didn't get around to this until tonight, but I wound up really enjoying it. I have no idea if they took any cues from the new Degrassi (ignoring that the original took many things from the *old* Degrassi), but they did things right the same way those guys did things right. Just enough of the old to bring the nostalgia for the fans of the original mixed in with a lot of the new. It worked, but it didn't really work completely for me until it was over. It was slow to start, I wasn't crazy about half of the kids (though most grew on me) and I was a little bored for about a half hour. Then it picked up. And even though I was questioning why they crammed two episodes into one two hour ep, i was glad they did when it was over because they gave me enough to make me want more. It's still fairly average, but by the end I wanted more, so they did a good job with it. They also made me put the original in the netflix queue. My plans of watching every season of "The X-Files" in order has now stalled halfway through season three as 90210 takes it's place. Or, rather, 90210 takes the place of "The OC" which is what had already distracted me from TXF. Oh well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-34580824002036482002008-09-04T03:08:00.000-04:002008-09-04T03:08:00.000-04:00There's a look at the bodies and clothes of 90210 ...There's a look at the bodies and clothes of 90210 then and now <A HREF="http://flowtv.org/?p=1627" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-6423841847457293252008-09-04T01:08:00.000-04:002008-09-04T01:08:00.000-04:00I love how Estes' character mentioned Kelly's polk...I love how Estes' character mentioned Kelly's polka dot leggings, which have become a cult favorite of 90210 fashion addicts. I believe they were mentioned on gofugyourself.com recently. I like the meta aspects of the show. Shows a bit of ironic awareness in this remake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1677180519839582002008-09-03T20:37:00.000-04:002008-09-03T20:37:00.000-04:00But expecting consistency on a 90210 sequel a deca...<I><BR/>But expecting consistency on a 90210 sequel a decade after the fact is a fool's errand.</I><BR/><BR/>As my husband said about the short-lived but awesome Bruce Campbell show "Jack of all Trades": If you're expecting historical accuracy from a show where the main characters get their orders from a parrot dressed like a pirate, you're kind of missing the point.<BR/><BR/>That's kind of how I feel about 90210. So what if the consistency is a bit off.<BR/><BR/>I don't know about tweens and teens, but all of the 30-ish ladies in my office watched it, and my best friend from college called me first thing this morning to talk about it, and we all said we'd keep watching. So maybe the nostalgia factor is enough to draw us in and keep us going, even if the show is just okay. And until Grey's, Chuck, Heroes and BSG come back - especially now that The Middleman has permanently gone through a giant wormhole - it's sure better than nothing.electriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18265084293417817923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54630269882061949652008-09-03T17:24:00.000-04:002008-09-03T17:24:00.000-04:00Yes, that was Linda Gray. My eyebrows raised when ...Yes, that was Linda Gray. My eyebrows raised when she was listed in the credits, both because she's Linday Gray and because, like Rob Estes, she's yet another member of the extended 90210/Melrose universe playing a different character than she did in the past, when she was the lead on Models Inc. <BR/><BR/>But expecting consistency on a 90210 sequel a decade after the fact is a fool's errand.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-3625302075869980232008-09-03T17:21:00.000-04:002008-09-03T17:21:00.000-04:00Just a question: was that Linda Gray playing Grand...Just a question: was that Linda Gray playing Grandma Wilson's friend (and Ethan's grandma) who checked in on her after the off-camera car accident. It sure looked alot like her, and it would totally fit with Tabitha Wilson's character's premise...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-90465268618432850362008-09-03T15:55:00.000-04:002008-09-03T15:55:00.000-04:00Your suspicions about a possible divide between an...Your suspicions about a possible divide between an older and younger audience seem to have been confirmed by some of the ratings. For a show with so many teens, female teens largely stayed away, reaching only half as many as Gossip Girl’s season premiere, and maybe a quarter of what Secret Life of the American Teenager has been doing in the same timeslot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-87815047372650632592008-09-03T15:18:00.000-04:002008-09-03T15:18:00.000-04:00I'm a 16-year-old girl and I watched it last night...I'm a 16-year-old girl and I watched it last night with my best friend. We both hated it and were making fun of it the entire time. The only good parts were when Lucille Bluth 2.0 was onscreen. I'm not a big fan of Gossip Girl, but I like it way better than 90210.Madshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04405374825640757499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67774731861859699342008-09-03T14:17:00.000-04:002008-09-03T14:17:00.000-04:00Yeah, it's not spectacular, but it's among the bes...Yeah, it's not spectacular, but it's among the best ratings ever for the CW, especially considering that a major market (Chicago) isn't included due to a Cubs game and that it was up against inexplicable juggernaut "America's Got Talent (Well, Sort Of)!"Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00295270766215749309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-59132890596448078702008-09-03T14:04:00.000-04:002008-09-03T14:04:00.000-04:00FWIW, 90210 averaged 4.91 million viewers, and was...<I>FWIW, 90210 averaged 4.91 million viewers, and was very strong among 18-49, with a steady 2.7 rating in the demo from 8:30 PM on.</I><BR/><BR/>That's definitely a solid debut, but when you consider the amount of hype about this show -- and the fact that a decent amount of that audience was likely rubberneckers who may not continue with it -- I'm not exactly dazzled by the numbers.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-40215979847462826562008-09-03T13:00:00.000-04:002008-09-03T13:00:00.000-04:00FWIW, 90210 averaged 4.91 million viewers, and was...FWIW, 90210 averaged 4.91 million viewers, and was very strong among 18-49, with a steady 2.7 rating in the demo from 8:30 PM on.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00295270766215749309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42175716019642649822008-09-03T11:02:00.000-04:002008-09-03T11:02:00.000-04:00I thought the same thing. It is sad that the orig...I thought the same thing. It is sad that the original 90210 girls would have looked chubby next to them, and they were far from it. Anorexia seems to be the new Hollywood thing and scarily passed off as normal.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317568565085893849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23966394342762929972008-09-03T10:51:00.000-04:002008-09-03T10:51:00.000-04:00Did the craft services budget get axed for this sh...Did the craft services budget get axed for this show? Several of girls (especially Annie) looked malnourished.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-6925725341761478262008-09-03T10:36:00.000-04:002008-09-03T10:36:00.000-04:00alan, why isn't your blog all flash animation and ...alan, why isn't your blog all flash animation and video like Silver's? Get with the times!SoundBitesNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15637097105227532272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-21456896106330042032008-09-03T09:49:00.000-04:002008-09-03T09:49:00.000-04:00When she came back for a reunion cameo, she said t...When she came back for a reunion cameo, she said they were divorcing. And when parents remarry, sometimes the kid's surname will be changed to streamline confusion, etc.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02113168955236758821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67661692221663359722008-09-03T09:41:00.000-04:002008-09-03T09:41:00.000-04:00Can we assume that by the Z-V surname that Andrea ...<I>Can we assume that by the Z-V surname that Andrea has not remarried?</I><BR/><BR/>Even if she and Jesse split (and the last I remember of those two, they were moving to Cambridge to try to make it work), Hannah's name would stay the same unless Jesse gave up adoption rights, no?Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23286712928226552152008-09-03T09:22:00.000-04:002008-09-03T09:22:00.000-04:00Ohndrea's, err ... Andrea's grandmother the holoca...Ohndrea's, err ... Andrea's grandmother the holocaust survivor, the one who insisted that they go together to see the Farrakhan stand-in at CU? Yeah, that'd be cool.<BR/><BR/>Can we assume that by the Z-V surname that Andrea has not remarried?Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02113168955236758821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-69725745554553529842008-09-03T08:56:00.000-04:002008-09-03T08:56:00.000-04:00"The appearance of Hannah Zuckerman-Vasquez was am..."The appearance of Hannah Zuckerman-Vasquez was amusing, but it actually kind of annoys me. Hannah just as easily could have been the tie-in to the new show as Erin. But my guess is we won't be seeing her again. So why bother having her there at all? Especially when it raises the question of Andrea being back in Beverly Hills, but apparently not friends with Kelly anymore."<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Hannah is living with Andrea's grandmother in Beverly Hills so that she can attend West Beverly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23313563920417408232008-09-03T08:04:00.000-04:002008-09-03T08:04:00.000-04:00I'm noticing a lot of people saying things like "I...I'm noticing a lot of people saying things like "I actually thought it was good" or "it was better than I expected." I wonder if not sending out the pilot was just a way of managing expectations - making it <I>seem</I> like it's worse than it actually was so people would be pleasantly surprised by it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-55093530940512982462008-09-03T07:59:00.000-04:002008-09-03T07:59:00.000-04:00"Given that Sachs and Judah are such professed Wir..."Given that Sachs and Judah are such professed Wire geeks, I wonder if making Dixon a great lacrosse player was in some way an homage to The Bunk."<BR/>I couldn't help thinking of the Bunk either during that scene. Only watched the first bit of the show, but will watch the rest later. It was definitely decent enough for me to finish the episode. <BR/>I just love that Tristan Wilds was cast in this. It makes me happy to see my beloved Wire actors in different, even unexpected roles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54846713473952161752008-09-03T07:50:00.000-04:002008-09-03T07:50:00.000-04:00When Kelly told Brenda that Brandon had called at ...When Kelly told Brenda that Brandon had called at 3am, I presumed that he was the one we saw Kelly speaking with on the phone and probably the baby daddy.<BR/><BR/>And thanks for identifying the actress who played "Mrs Clark"... I knew she looked familiar, but couldn't place her.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317568565085893849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4364968629580502042008-09-03T07:25:00.000-04:002008-09-03T07:25:00.000-04:00But my favorite moment had to be Michael Lee domin...<I>But my favorite moment had to be Michael Lee dominating Lacrosse like Jim Brown at Syracuse!</I><BR/><BR/>Given that Sachs and Judah are such professed Wire geeks, I wonder if making Dixon a great lacrosse player was in some way an homage to The Bunk.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42676547374476527752008-09-03T07:24:00.000-04:002008-09-03T07:24:00.000-04:00The original show went off the air in 2000, yet Ha...<I>The original show went off the air in 2000, yet Hannah and Erin are already in high school? I guess that's true soap opera time compression at work.</I><BR/><BR/>As others have mentioned, both Erin and Hannah were born way before the series ended: Erin when the kids were still in high school, Hannah early in the college seasons. If Hannah's not supposed to be in the same grade as the others (it'd be just like Andrea's kid to wind up as the Blaze anchorwoman as a freshman), then they haven't really played with the ages at all. <BR/><BR/>Also, don't be so sure they won't be doing more with Hannah in the future. The actress they cast, Hallee Hirsh, is an experienced enough kid actress that I wouldn't be surprised if she was chosen with future stories in mind.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.com