tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post114721166732054549..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Veronica Mars: WhodunnitAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-107829608479660912014-06-11T13:38:08.960-04:002014-06-11T13:38:08.960-04:00Actually Veronica did not decide to go to Hearst b...Actually Veronica did not decide to go to Hearst because she realised she would miss Wallace too much, although yes it was established as a major plus during the episode. But what happened was that she lost the Kane scholarship (this was implied). When Keith texted her to say the verdict in Aaron's trial was in she gave into her curiosity and walked out of her Western Civilisation final. She would have gotten an F or an Incomplete or something. I've always found that maddening in the sense that Keith is generally such a great parent and failed to think this one through. But it was a good plot move on the part of the show creators since it was true to Veronica's character that she wouldn't have been able to sit through her test with that information, and it makes 'falling back' on Hearst thanks to her friend from jury duty is a logical move. The most natural 'hey the whole gang coincidentally ended up going to the same college' manoeuvre I can remember seeing on TV.<br /><br />I have never been able to figure out the Duncan-Cassidy thing and all these years later it still grates (I just rewatched the whole series after the movie came out so it's a fresh wound).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-59677732172574489632009-06-23T17:34:41.174-04:002009-06-23T17:34:41.174-04:00Okay, so this is a REALLY belated question, but I ...Okay, so this is a REALLY belated question, but I hope you have some theory about it. And then actually see my comment. Here's my question: in "Donut Run" how did Veronica and Duncan set it up so that Logan would see Veronica seeing Kendall come out of Duncan's shower? THAT is driving me nuts. <br />Thanks! <br />--A Latecomer Fan of VMH.R. Hopperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04402701815246827253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1164128875245427582006-11-21T12:07:00.000-05:002006-11-21T12:07:00.000-05:00I am not convinced that "Donut Run" proved that Du...I am not convinced that "Donut Run" proved that Duncan didn't sleep with Kendall. The scene where she asks him to scratch her back took place prior to Veronica's discovery of Meg's pregnancy, and I don't believe that Duncan had already started plotting at that point without Veronica. Plus, there is a scene where Duncan is ALONE with Kendall and she says, "I've been in BOTH your beds (Duncan's and Logan's), I think I"ve earned the occasional drop-by." If that was not a sincere statement of being in his bed, whose benefit was it for? The audience? That would just be poor directing. Every time that VM has played games with the audience, it has done it in such a way where we pick up the false info when the ones involved in the con are speaking to those being conned. I'm confused. I don't think Duncan would cheat on Veronica, but I don't know why he didn't kick Kendall out of him room the second she started hitting on him at that point. I know that the time Veronica saw Kendall in his shower WAS staged as part of the plot to save baby Lilly, but I'm not so sure about that first seduction attempt. Why were we left wondering...maybe in preparation for the hoax to come. <BR/>Also, why did the FBI just decide that Veronica and her dad were "pretty cool" and just drop the whole kidnapping accesory thing? She didn't cooperate at all, she was caught misleading the FBI with her taped phone call! Did they really just like her and hate Lamb so much that they joined in on the conspiracy? I think that was a bit of a stretch!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1157407805558201132006-09-04T18:10:00.000-04:002006-09-04T18:10:00.000-04:00So... I loved the ending, even though I wasn't hap...So... I loved the ending, even though I wasn't happy with Cassidy being the rapiest. I would of loved to live in the world where it just was Duncan and Veronica that night and no one else. But the end of season 2 left me with some hangers, not only on the storyline, but also on the returning cast.<BR/><BR/>1) If Veronica worked so hard to help Duncan hind out with the baby and his mother didn't approve, why was Clarence in contact with Duncan, since he works for Mr. & Mrs. Kane? <BR/><BR/>2)If the Oscar was found buried in the backyard of the Kane estate with Duncan's hair on it. Was it hidden when his parent's thought he was the one that killed his sister? OR Was it really Duncan that killed Lilly and hide it himself?<BR/><BR/>3)If Kendall was with Aaron when he was shot was she in on some special plot with Clarence and Duncan and if so how does that work?<BR/><BR/>4) From what I understand Teddy Dunn will not be returning to the cast for the 3rd season. Anyone know if it was about him persuing other options like law school, or was it just about his character not working with the direction they wanted to take with the next season?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147611985727621482006-05-14T09:06:00.000-04:002006-05-14T09:06:00.000-04:00Dammit, I missed the obvious joke! I should have s...Dammit, I missed the obvious joke! I should have said: "Okay, TWO gay guys from other dimensions."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147611733076217272006-05-14T09:02:00.000-04:002006-05-14T09:02:00.000-04:00"So you've forgotten Connor?"Ugh. Does that really..."So you've forgotten Connor?"<BR/><BR/>Ugh. Does that really count?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147611677027905272006-05-14T09:01:00.000-04:002006-05-14T09:01:00.000-04:00Have they really? Thanks for the tip.Have they really? Thanks for the tip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147557336672236272006-05-13T17:55:00.000-04:002006-05-13T17:55:00.000-04:00not every reference to VAMPIRES is a "nod" to buff...not every reference to VAMPIRES is a "nod" to buffy. vampires have been around a bit longer than ten years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147533813756383812006-05-13T11:23:00.000-04:002006-05-13T11:23:00.000-04:00Logan and Veronica didn't have sex. We know becau...Logan and Veronica didn't have sex. We know because Veronica makes a Major Life Choice when she goes to meet Duncan and sleeps with him .. in the spirit of 'life is for living now.' We also know because she has a fleeting panic moment when she thinks her dad can tell by looking at her that she's had sex .. a panic moment she wouldn't have had had she already slept with a past boyfriend .. would have been old news by then. Her dad says there's something different about her when she gets home form Duncan's .. the difference being that she had (conscious and presumably enjoyed) sex. But the real tell is Logan's reaction. He is unbelievably jealous when he sees Veronica coming out of Duncan's room .. and proceeds to make snarky comments in ensuing episodes that basically give away the fact that he never slept with Veronica and clearly wishes she were still his.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147454671991418772006-05-12T13:24:00.000-04:002006-05-12T13:24:00.000-04:00I’m a big (non-teenage) fan and I have to say my f...I’m a big (non-teenage) fan and I have to say my favorite parts of “Veronica Mars” are the Veronica/Logan scenes. Their dialogue with one another is so fresh and funny it sparkles, and the two actors have great on-screen chemistry.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, I liked the episode but it did feel a bit “Scooby Doo-ish” and not in a “Buffy” way, more of a “And I would have got it away with it too, if not for you meddling kids.” (The fact that he sat there and spelled it all out for her is classic bad villain tactic.) I also thought the immediate leap from Beaver being on the team to him being the killer was a bit of a, well, leap.<BR/><BR/>I loved that Logan “rescued” Veronica without question, and yet wasn’t totally her savior either. What I really, really wanted was to see how she and Logan went from him running out the morning after her Dad came home (and, yeah, I knew he wasn’t dead) to hot-and-heavy in the hallway. I’m also certain that, like last year, they’ll find a reason for these two to be broken up again by the time season three (god-willing) starts up. Also, that there was not even a throw-away line about the Echolls murder (anyone think Logan might get it pinned on him next season?) was a bit of a stretch. I think that would be something Keith, Veronica and Logan would definitely discuss.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I love that in Veronica’s fantasy sequence (and, for a moment, I thought her dad coming home and she and Logan making out in the hall was going to be another dream), Logan was her one-true-love, not Duncan the drip.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I agree with another poster that said Logan and Veronica have not been intimate. I think it would have been a plot point if they had, though realistically, with she and Duncan jumping into bed so fast it seems strange that she and Logan, who had so much more passion going on, didn’t in the time they were supposed to be together. (I just don’t think, for ratings sake, that would be something that would happen off camera.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147393033787715852006-05-11T20:17:00.000-04:002006-05-11T20:17:00.000-04:00It was a bit of a stretch that Veronica still woul...It was a bit of a stretch that Veronica still would not have known that Keith was not on the plane the next morning.<BR/><BR/>There would have been all sorts of debriefing at the police station after the Beaver incident, and they would have been in contact with Sheriff Lamb if he is indeed alive and he would have known that Keith was NOT on the plane. I know there is no love lost, but come on..that would be TOO pathologically cruel to withhold that info.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147361796760697602006-05-11T11:36:00.000-04:002006-05-11T11:36:00.000-04:00Jim Treacher said - Which must be fun for Carpente...Jim Treacher said - <I>Which must be fun for Carpenter to play, considering the only time she got any on Angel was with a gay guy from another dimension.</I><BR/><BR/>So you've forgotten Connor? Good for you, some of us can't.<BR/><BR/>It seems that most people are assuming that Keith chose not to meet Veronica at the airport. The commenter who mentioned a Fitzpatrick whacking him could be on the right track. When Kendall showed Keith the briefcase he still had an hour to meet Veronica, plenty of time to call her if he wasn't planning to go to the airport. It makes more sense to assume he was prevented from getting to the airport, for whatever reason. I think the writers need to give Veronica a pretty strong motivation to stay in Neptune - if Veronica feels that her father's health or life are in jeopardy that might be what keeps her in town (and also living at home, according to Thomas), so I suspect Keith is in for a world of trouble over the next 7 episodes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147361477677202282006-05-11T11:31:00.000-04:002006-05-11T11:31:00.000-04:00I'm pretty sure I'm here too late but I need to kn...I'm pretty sure I'm here too late but I need to know in what episode did:<BR/><BR/>a) Veronica get the Chylamidia diagnosis?<BR/>b) Kendall scrape Duncan DNA?<BR/>c) Weevil kick Curly's ass?<BR/><BR/>I only know this stuff happened because of the "Previously on Veronica Mars" flashbacks. I'm positive there's one episode I missed before I got obsessive. Any help?Dan Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323257310042023350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147306650332475972006-05-10T20:17:00.000-04:002006-05-10T20:17:00.000-04:00Just following up on what I said before about Stan...Just following up on what I said before about Stanford. Even though she could afford Standford without the Kane scholarship, Veronica could still get it by making up the final she missed. She had a pretty good reason to leave and a lot of teachers would let her make it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147295386911606192006-05-10T17:09:00.000-04:002006-05-10T17:09:00.000-04:00Oh, now that I think about it, the explosives in t...Oh, now that I think about it, the explosives in the hangar can be explained. Cassidy rigged Woody's plane to explode, right? Terrence kept his cars in Woody's HANGAR. Cassidy left C-4 there when he rigged the plane. By leaving some of the C-4 there, Cassidy placed blame for the inevitable plane explosion on Terrence Cook, along with the bus crash. It was more cover-up work by Cassidy.velvetcannibalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649039454592018539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147287568167620392006-05-10T14:59:00.000-04:002006-05-10T14:59:00.000-04:00RE Alan questions:a) Cliff's stolen briefcase was ...RE Alan questions:<BR/><BR/>a) Cliff's stolen briefcase was orchestrated by Aaron's cellmate. The cellmate paid the hooker to get the briefcase away. In it were the keys to the Echolls storage locker, and that's how Aaron and Kendall got the Oscar to use for the trial.<BR/><BR/>b) Woody told Gia to get off the bus because Peter and Marcos were on it. I think they may have actually confronted Woody, but he scared them again. In any case, he probably thought it best to separate her from them. At that point, he didn't have any indication that Beaver was going to come forward.<BR/><BR/>c) YES! My biggest question. Why with the explosives in Cook's hangar? That I will wonder for a while.<BR/><BR/>More answers to some comments: Lamb was not on the plane. Logan and Veronica have not had sex. when V was raped by B, she was a sophomore, 16. He was a freshman, 14 or 15. Little League goes up to 12, I believe, though who knows when his relationship with Woody ended. They both happened to be people who had no symptoms. And yes, it's possible Duncan has chlamydia now.<BR/><BR/>I loved the symmetry of Kendall going into a shower to help Aaron frame Duncan, then going into a shower to help Duncan kill Aaron. This seems to fit the idea that she may have been in the know on that, since she left Aaron sated at a very convenient moment.<BR/><BR/>I also love how all the gloating over V/D has stopped with the horror of the truth. I love that Duncan is redeemed as from being called a cheater. Then Rob has him orchestrate the murder of his best friend's father. Beautiful.<BR/><BR/>And who knew the Gute could bring the creepy. Or Kyle G. Well done.velvetcannibalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649039454592018539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147282560073838032006-05-10T13:36:00.000-04:002006-05-10T13:36:00.000-04:00Veronica tasering the evil frat guy in the Hearst ...Veronica tasering the evil frat guy in the Hearst episode was at least as funny as Keith zapping The Gutte or Chloe taking down her new friend.<BR/><BR/>Basically, tasers are always funny -- especially if you've seen the laughable end of the Bruce Willis thriller "Striking Distance."Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147276627198792172006-05-10T11:57:00.000-04:002006-05-10T11:57:00.000-04:00Cliff's briefcase is a good spec for why Keith did...Cliff's briefcase is a good spec for why Keith didn't show up at the airport. He'd do anything for Cliffy!<BR/><BR/>And there's a very good reason why Woddy would warn Gia off the bus...two or three boys he molested were riding it. He'd want to keep her from learning anything about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147274599569581212006-05-10T11:23:00.000-04:002006-05-10T11:23:00.000-04:00Oh, and there was no voiceover, right? How many VM...Oh, and there was no voiceover, right? How many VM episodes haven't had any voiceover? And how come they shoehorned in pretty much everybody who's been on the show this season, including the stoner dude ("That sleazoid's gonna fry! ZZZZZT!!"), but not Cliff?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147274525973221502006-05-10T11:22:00.000-04:002006-05-10T11:22:00.000-04:00Oh seriously lady t - the taser scene with Woody k...Oh seriously lady t - the taser scene with Woody killed. I was so afraid we'd have to suffer through listening to the Gute peeing! I think I was more scared there than when Cassidy blew up the plane.<BR/><BR/>It is a damn shame that budgets affected so many storylines, but what an awesome job RT does with limited resources. If they had had the money, I think all of our needs could have been met with a 2 hour finale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147274187756315092006-05-10T11:16:00.000-04:002006-05-10T11:16:00.000-04:00For the most part, I really liked the episode. I ...For the most part, I really liked the episode. I consciously avoided looking at the list of guest starts, and so had a few surprises based on that, although I guessed that Beaver'd been abused, I had no clue about him being the bus crasher.<BR/><BR/>But. I kind of hated the very last scene. From everything we know of Keith (whose death I just never believed in, too), there's just about nothing I can imagine being in the briefcase (except a bomb) that would keep him from at the very least calling Veronica.<BR/><BR/>And I felt the same kind of whiplash in the last ten minutes that I have too often this season. I've felt more often than not that this season has been too tightly edited, that there've been a lot of scenes that have been cut away from or to just a beat or two too quickly. And that happened at the end of this episode, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147272505103186972006-05-10T10:48:00.000-04:002006-05-10T10:48:00.000-04:00My Little Sister totally called it on Beaver being...My Little Sister totally called it on Beaver being the Big Bad(it's a shame in some ways-Kyle Gallner's a pretty good actor but maybe he'll get to reappear on Smallville next season) and I hope that this is the last we see of Jackie because Wallace can do way better than Ms. High Maintence.<BR/><BR/>My three favorite moments of the VM finale:<BR/><BR/>Woody getting tazered while trying to escape out the window(reminded me of that end bit in Fargo with William H. Macy,also in his undies)<BR/><BR/>Aaron Echolls recieving his karmic desserts(interesting that the last thing he saw was himself on TV)<BR/><BR/>Veronica graduating and getting props from her father,friends and the principal(anyone want to bet that she'll get called in to help with a Neptune High mystery next season?)<BR/><BR/>Least favorite:<BR/><BR/>Weevil's arrest-Lamb could've nabbed him as soon as he got off the stage after getting his diploma but noooo! Lamb just had to be a jerk yet again. Yes,Weevil deserved to get busted but you could also agrue that Thumper was heading down the path to his own destruction and that Weevil just nudged him forward abit sooner.<BR/><BR/>I also would've liked to see Dick being confronted by Cassidy or atleast have had a reaction scene after finding out what happened. Dick is the dictionary defination of shallow but this might have been a major reality check for him. Perhaps he'll be back next season and it'll be dealt with then.lady thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16287907577241697874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147272451516125712006-05-10T10:47:00.000-04:002006-05-10T10:47:00.000-04:00"One more thing - they made it clear in 'Donut Run..."One more thing - they made it clear in 'Donut Run' that Duncan did not sleep with Kendall."<BR/><BR/>They did? Guess I'll have to catch the rerun. I figured she gave it to him, being such a complete hosebag. Which must be fun for Carpenter to play, considering the only time she got any on Angel was with a gay guy from another dimension. Anyway. Getting VD from Steve Gutenberg would have to suck, especially if he was a kid-toucher. And worse, a politician!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147272086394371502006-05-10T10:41:00.000-04:002006-05-10T10:41:00.000-04:00Rob has to work with the lowest budget for any dra...Rob has to work with the lowest budget for any drama on a broadcast network (and probably lower than some basic cable shows). In year one, he was only allowed to have Kristen and Enrico in every episode. In year two, that got bumped up to Kristen, Enrico and Jason. Unless the CW renews the show with a higher budget (doubtful), things will probably stay the same, even with a more streamlined cast overall. Wallace and Mac (if Tina signs on full-time) will probably still skip some episodes.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1147271765619532462006-05-10T10:36:00.000-04:002006-05-10T10:36:00.000-04:00Felix vs. Thumper? D'oh! I'm gonna go fix that one...Felix vs. Thumper? D'oh! I'm gonna go fix that one right now. Thanks.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.com