tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post1197733317062350466..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Lost: Gone baby goneAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-22443425030421868252008-02-28T13:29:00.000-05:002008-02-28T13:29:00.000-05:00John F said...If I remember correctly, the promo f...John F said...<BR/><BR/>If I remember correctly, the promo for this episode said we'd learn another member of the Oceanic Six. If that is true, Aaron has to be one of them.<BR/><BR/>The promo you are thinking of was refering to Sayid's episode (The Economist), not this episode.<BR/><BR/>The baby is not named after Aaron, it is Aaron. The blond hair was the giveaway to me that he was Aaron before she even said his name.<BR/><BR/>I do not believe that Aaron is considered part of the Ocenanic six (even though he should be). The group lie prevents them from saying he was on board the plane in Claire's belly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-47259669844920569832008-02-25T19:31:00.000-05:002008-02-25T19:31:00.000-05:00It would also suggest an unfortunate demise for Cl...<I>It would also suggest an unfortunate demise for Claire and Aaron.</I><BR/><BR/>Only if Kate's son isn't the real Aaron, but named for him, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-8698692044422847452008-02-24T08:09:00.000-05:002008-02-24T08:09:00.000-05:00From JanRe the title "Eggtown": it also works as a...From Jan<BR/><BR/>Re the title "Eggtown": it also works as a reference to all the baby/pregnancy/ovulation references.<BR/><BR/>And I have to agree with Special K: "I hope they bury this love triangle subplot soon...And Jack is still claiming to luuuuuve Kate." Oh, please!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74172740494438292882008-02-23T22:35:00.000-05:002008-02-23T22:35:00.000-05:00If Kate is pregnant:It would explain why she got s...If Kate is pregnant:<BR/><BR/>It would explain why she got so upset with Sawyer -- she was testing his willingness to be a father.<BR/><BR/>The baby could still count in the Oceanic 6.<BR/><BR/>It would explain why Jack can't stand the site of him.<BR/><BR/>It would also suggest an unfortunate demise for Claire and Aaron.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535045378742454109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18243351298505983032008-02-23T16:30:00.000-05:002008-02-23T16:30:00.000-05:00I think either by some chance Jack kills Claire or...I think either by some chance Jack kills Claire or blames himself for Claire's death, so Aaron reminds him of her. That's why he can't see the kidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89034850054522975302008-02-23T13:05:00.000-05:002008-02-23T13:05:00.000-05:00Love all these comments - lot of food for thought...Love all these comments - lot of food for thought - although I am in tiny minority that actually liked the episode!<BR/><BR/>And, alas, the big surprise of the last few seconds was blown for me because I read Alan's post title before watching the episode on DVR. Aargh!! Didn't anybody else see that underrated movie, if for nothing else then for Amy Ryan?Peter Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03156608705252877660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42517860463608108292008-02-23T12:53:00.000-05:002008-02-23T12:53:00.000-05:00Am I the only one who thought Kate was lying when ...Am I the only one who thought Kate was lying when she said she knew she wasn't pregnant?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-30586588394926267232008-02-23T11:58:00.000-05:002008-02-23T11:58:00.000-05:00Nevadasmith--My husband keeps saying the same thin...Nevadasmith--My husband keeps saying the same thing about the water. Why do they keep showing us all of that drinking if it doesn't mean something? I haven't been paying enough attention, though, to notice who is drinking more than anyone else, if there is someone who isn't drinking water, etc. And there was that scene last week when Locke had the lemonade and Ben said he was thirsty (though he didn't get any). Probably means nothing. But it's nice to know that someone else is thinking about the water!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77718809468531420112008-02-23T05:18:00.000-05:002008-02-23T05:18:00.000-05:00A couple of people have asked whether this is the ...A couple of people have asked whether this is the first time we've had a fakeout, where the first close-up eye shot is not on the person the episode centres around. The only other episodes I can think of where they did this are the first episodes of both season 2 (Desmond) and season 3 (Juliet). Slightly different, in that at least we were meeting someone new, but still, tye fit the criteria.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-60190367138208467992008-02-23T01:11:00.000-05:002008-02-23T01:11:00.000-05:00"Still, the most glaring error to me was that she ..."Still, the most glaring error to me was that she was being tried in California. IIRC, she blew up her step-father in some midwestern state so California has absolutely no jurisdiction to try the case. You can't just tranfer it over there."<BR/><BR/>Thank you, Anonymous! That really bugged me as well - Kate is from Iowa, isn't she? What was the trial doing in California?<BR/><BR/>The other aspect of the trial - that of the defense calling Jack to the stand before the prosecutor made her case - escaped me.<BR/><BR/>And put me in the camp of those who called Aaron as Kate's "son" as soon as she refused to let him get involved in the trial. The scene between Kate and Claire only clinched it.<BR/><BR/>I'm hoping by the end of the series, Locke sacrifices himself to save the island - going out in a blaze of crazed glory like Cody Jarrett in "White Heat".....Toby O'Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999037844031101965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18450307237408169152008-02-23T00:50:00.000-05:002008-02-23T00:50:00.000-05:00"On September 22, James Ford was asked to remove h..."On September 22, James Ford was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from the government of Australia..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-84529958913891600182008-02-23T00:12:00.000-05:002008-02-23T00:12:00.000-05:00Devin McCullen, you are my hero. I was going to br...Devin McCullen, you are my hero. I was going to bring up Babylon 5 and Mira Furlan but was too chicken. I can definitely Go There, sci-fi TV-wise, but I wimped out. I must give it up for your timely and well-put Voorlon reference. <BR/><BR/>Can we start talking Deep Space 9 now? Talk about the Founders? Just kidding. <BR/><BR/>Putting aside the headache inducing timeline discussion for a second, I just want to say that I want to see more of Hurley and Sawyer as the Odd Couple. I see them getting a wacky new roommate named Miles! Maybe starting a coffee shop at the Dharma Village where they all hang out (Karma Koffee?). There's comedy gold there, I tell you.Mo Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01685367085407381479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45155701440627645522008-02-22T23:42:00.000-05:002008-02-22T23:42:00.000-05:00I don't watch Galactica, but ever since Mira Furla...I don't watch Galactica, but ever since Mira Furlan showed up my secret Lost theory is that it's all a gigantic experiment by the Voorlons.<BR/><BR/>I saw the baby Aaron bit coming early on (although they said it would be a dramatic ending in the podcast, and that got me thinking that way). And he was credited as "Two Year Old Baby". (That's the only good thing about having to watch it on the computer tonight.)<BR/><BR/>But of course it wasn't that great. It's a Kate episode!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-30524907518789678242008-02-22T23:33:00.000-05:002008-02-22T23:33:00.000-05:00In no particular order:I think that baby/toddler j...In no particular order:<BR/><BR/>I think that baby/toddler just might have a fat face rather than Down's Syndrome. Not certain that Autism would be something we could "see" in facial chracteristics that early if at all. No offense to the child actor, maybe that wasn't his "good side".<BR/><BR/>My first thought was that Jack does not want to be around Aaron because he reminds him of his own father (Aaron's grandfather) and perhaps the mysterious Christian Shepherd is going to show up and take the baby under his wing so to speak. Reminiscent of the early Locke/Walt relationship but with less time spent throwing knives.<BR/><BR/>Folks seem to be a bit obsessed with Kate's menstrual periods but perhaps she just believes she cannot get pregnant based on past issues? WE know that the island can likely heal some medical issues but did Sun ever say to Kate "I/Jin was infertile and now the island has changed this and I am pregnant?" If she did it would be one of the few instnces of unambiguous coversation we've seen. Not that it means anything one way or the other, since we have no clear notion of how time passes on the island Kate could get pregnant, lose the baby or heck even have the baby and sacrifice it to the island gods at the temple of the others and still be raising Aaron.<BR/><BR/>The lawyer's allusion to the baby as a character illustration said to me that it is known by the public that this is not Kate's biological baby. My thinking is that there is some dramatic rescue story, something we will actually see or just another of the host of whoppers they tell when they rejoin society. Can't see why anything we've seen so far invalidates the idea that Aaron is somehow dangerous. If he has some kind of psychic powers he might be the cause of a turf war after Claire is out of the picture...these folks seem set in their us versus them ways.<BR/><BR/>I have long since given up trying to sort out the timeline or timelines but why does everyone assume that because in April 2007 Jack is a bearded addict he could never bounce back? Assuming that every scene in the future in which Jack is smug, handsome and clean shaven comes before the period where he is whiney, chubby and hairy might be a mistake....rehab, a gym and a barber can do wonders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-62661978405932556822008-02-22T22:01:00.000-05:002008-02-22T22:01:00.000-05:00Besides all the mysteries and clues etc one thing ...Besides all the mysteries and clues etc one thing has been sticking in my mind for the last2 seasons and more-these people are the most hydrated people on any tv show-they are always concerned about having water with them-drinking water-water-water-water. As everything else on this show it must mean something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-13761318498720044202008-02-22T21:53:00.000-05:002008-02-22T21:53:00.000-05:00Speaking of the actors and what they do and don't ...Speaking of the actors and what they do and don't know about the inner workings of the show, Terry O'Quinn gave a very interesting interview the other day (click <A HREF="http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h714hREWK3w09IqY5tsB8t_qr7fQ" REL="nofollow">here</A>). The quote I took out of it was concerning the writers' decision to have Locke literally stab Naomi in the back. O'Quinn didn't like it, and he went to them and said, "Well, if I stab her in the back, couldn't I at least shoot Jack in the knee or something?"<BR/><BR/>I didn't catch the connection at first, but he went on to say: "One of the nice things about this cast, this size of cast, you get a new episode and you go, 'Oh great, now I get to work this little arc with Michael Emerson. We have a lot together. Or with Josh Holloway or Evangeline Lily and it's almost always a pleasure to find out who you're working with. Almost." When asked who he doesn't like working with, he said: "There've been some rough times but it's very familial in that way. It's like the holidays when you go, 'Oh God, Uncle Bob's going to get drunk and abuse my cousin. But we'll get through it.'"<BR/><BR/>Do you think Matthew Fox is "Uncle Bob"? He's notably missing from O'Quinn's faves list, and Fox has a rep for being kind of a diva. I can see them not getting along, considering Fox is the ostensible star, yet Locke is the more interesting character and not nearly as many fans hate him and want him to die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-29965201935217022032008-02-22T21:17:00.000-05:002008-02-22T21:17:00.000-05:00I think the card thing was about psychic ability; ...I think the card thing was about psychic ability; he saw the plane crash on TV and started crying. . . He may be just like Walt or in the same family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-66335533773031531442008-02-22T20:27:00.000-05:002008-02-22T20:27:00.000-05:00If I remember correctly, the promo for this episod...If I remember correctly, the promo for this episode said we'd learn another member of the Oceanic Six. If that is true, Aaron has to be one of them. <BR/><BR/>As for Jack having issues with Aaron, this would simply be a result of his personal daddy issues. Imagine finding out your Dad had a daughter he never told you about and then finding out on the frackin' island that your an uncle. Normal people in the real world would need time to accept it so its realistic that Jack would too. <BR/><BR/>On another note, for storytelling purposes, catching up to the airport flash-forward works better the sooner they do it. If they leave it until the finale, the audience is likely to feel that this season was somewhat worthless. Granted we see what happens on the island, but a whole season of set-up in the future to get to a place we've already been shown would rob us of the "oh crap, did they really just do that" type of cliffhanger we want from the show going into a hiatus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89949334700972646812008-02-22T19:34:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:34:00.000-05:00Eric R, love the idea about a Locke fake-out funer...Eric R, love the idea about a Locke fake-out funeral!<BR/><BR/>I also really like the notion that we're now working up towards the Sn 3 finale moment at the airport, but that future season(s) will then show what happens next. Nicely gets to the ancient-history idea that Jack and Kate ARE Adam and Eve.Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024186205791001584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11177337882140702008-02-22T19:07:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:07:00.000-05:00A year and a half would actually be April of '06.....A year and a half would actually be April of '06... an understandable error considering he's giving the estimate off the top of his head (interview is supposed to be about <I>Vantage Point</I>, after all).<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying Fox knows anything concrete, just that he believes he's portraying himself in a not as distant future. Whether or not that's true, is fully debatable, otherwise, I'd recommend deleting this chain as a spoiler ;)Shawn Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703481653646144923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73193616523903705222008-02-22T18:54:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:54:00.000-05:00drake: "Count Fox in the April '07 camp."A year an...drake: "Count Fox in the April '07 camp."<BR/><BR/>A year and a half would put it in the summer of '06, wouldn't it? Assuming he knows what he's talking about (I don't, since most of the other actors admit they have no idea what's going on).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19327091534154683982008-02-22T18:18:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:18:00.000-05:00The whole depiction of the trial in this episode r...The whole depiction of the trial in this episode really bugged me. It's like these guys have never seen an episode of Law & Order, let alone Matlock.<BR/>A few folks have already chimed in about the defense calling a witness before the prosecution. The prosecution almost always goes first because it's their job to make a case for a conviction. The defense doesn't even have to present a case, and sometimes they don't bother too if they believe the prosecution hasn't made its case. <BR/>It's pretty laughable too that the prosecution's entire case would hang on Kate's mother's testimony. Wasn't there a bank robbery involving multiple witnesses, including her cohorts she shot? What about the police chase that led to her childhood friend dying? Wouldn't she face a manslaughter charge?<BR/>And if the Oceanic 6 are as big celebrities as they're supposed to be, any smart DA would get as much ammunition as possible before trying the case.<BR/>Still, the most glaring error to me was that she was being tried in California. IIRC, she blew up her step-father in some midwestern state so California has absolutely no jurisdiction to try the case. You can't just tranfer it over there.<BR/>I don't mind to get wound up over that one aspect of the episode because I actually enjoyed the rest of it with Hurley, Locke, Sawyer, Miles and the Aaron reveal at the end.<BR/>It just seems like the writers spent so much time setting up Kate's criminal past and chose the laziest way to resolve it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-60436709535765360932008-02-22T17:48:00.000-05:002008-02-22T17:48:00.000-05:00In an interview while promoting Vantage Point, Mat...<A HREF="http://www.comingsoon.net/news/avatarnews.php?id=42158" REL="nofollow">In an interview</A> while promoting Vantage Point, Matthew Fox says about Lost's time frame on the island vs the flash-forwards:<BR/><BR/>"If you're going to talk about from Jack in the plane crash to Jack in the future, that's about a year and a half, and Jack on the island now would be about 120 days."<BR/><BR/>Count Fox in the April '07 camp.Shawn Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703481653646144923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23476211684446901372008-02-22T17:29:00.000-05:002008-02-22T17:29:00.000-05:00Wouldn't it be cool if the island cured Faraday's ...<I>Wouldn't it be cool if the island cured Faraday's brain problems?</I><BR/><BR/>I wonder if they were really testing to see if Faraday was being healed by the island? Also, what would a fully healed Faraday be like? Personally, I think he would be awesome, but he could just as easily turn out to be scarier than Ben.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-68063981456504401362008-02-22T15:43:00.000-05:002008-02-22T15:43:00.000-05:00Cool, thanks for the EW link. I hadn't seen that y...Cool, thanks for the EW link. I hadn't seen that yet. Lots of good stuff there. He seems to be saying that they didn't intend for the bracelets to have a connection outside of Sayid's emotions, but they may end up adding a more concrete connection, or at least they may make a point of explaining away the coincidence within the show. That's how I took his "We might need to address that" comment.<BR/><BR/><I>so that the series will end on tv in 2010 and in Lost World 2010 as well.</I><BR/><BR/>I agree it would make a lot of sense for them to do that. I just think that the S3 finale comes way before that point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com