tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post3521667213802123006..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Battlestar Galactica, "Escape Velocity": A perfect SixAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-20332181305999974412008-05-03T18:41:00.000-04:002008-05-03T18:41:00.000-04:00I've watched this show from the start and it has j...I've watched this show from the start and it has just become dreadfully boring and needlessly dark. It is almost TOO dark and I don't mind dark (Sweeney Todd is my new favorite movie.) I don't mind the human element but and yes, they all have gone through hell bhut come one, not everyone is this messed up. Show some happiness now and then. This episode made me want to stop watching. I will give it a few more to get back on track.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521291682495201922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-87457161778462539852008-04-29T18:08:00.000-04:002008-04-29T18:08:00.000-04:00They can't have too many military action shots sin...<I>They can't have too many military action shots since most of that part of the cast is on the Demetrius. I'm assuming this decision will pay off later, but I keep wondering who's defending the fleet.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's kind of weird that Helo <I>and</I> Gaeta <I>and</I> Boomer are all on the Demetrius, since they're three of Adama's most trusted people. I'd be OK with two of them, but all three is stretching it.<BR/><BR/>According to the podcast, Helo wasn't originally going to be there; the network wanted him there. It would've made more sense to me if he had stayed back, even if it wouldn't have given the actor much to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73324639206960223372008-04-29T10:45:00.000-04:002008-04-29T10:45:00.000-04:00Anonymous loyal follower:There's a dedicated Battl...Anonymous loyal follower:<BR/><BR/>There's a dedicated Battlestar Wiki. It sometimes can be a bit slow in loading but it's very comprehensive and detailed.<BR/><BR/>Try this:<BR/><BR/>http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Humanoid_Cylon#Significant_Seven<BR/><BR/>The different known 'versions' of each model are listed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-8312465080054082322008-04-29T10:37:00.000-04:002008-04-29T10:37:00.000-04:00I didn't catch that, I'd have to take another look...I didn't catch that, I'd have to take another look.<BR/><BR/>I did expect Tory to turn and look at Head Six and acknowledging her, which would've been kind of insane.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-9614065062433294702008-04-28T22:03:00.000-04:002008-04-28T22:03:00.000-04:00Is it just me, or did it seem like Baltar had a mi...Is it just me, or did it seem like Baltar had a mini revelation at the end of the episode when he saw Head Six turn her head and look at Tory...<BR/><BR/>DarrenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11723940285347857312008-04-28T19:34:00.000-04:002008-04-28T19:34:00.000-04:00Re: airbagsOne of the reasons the movie Demolition...Re: airbags<BR/><BR/>One of the reasons the movie Demolition Man is a guilty pleasure is when Stallone exclaims that his car "turned into a cannoli". Maybe they have some similar tech.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11101205956353455647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-2442747387278436852008-04-28T16:38:00.000-04:002008-04-28T16:38:00.000-04:00Hi, this is my first comment here, and I'm not nat...Hi, this is my first comment here, and I'm not native english speaker so: I have a pretty simple explanation of the scene with Starbuck. It is not about clues or signs to the future, it's just a simple parallel to the concurrent events on Galactica.<BR/>See, there is a struggling Baltar, who, after being beaten up, finds love between his followers. There is Laura, who, after being outvoted, finds comfort with Adama. Six beats down Tigh, but then expresses her love for her own kind to him. It is all about struggling to get somewhere (usually, to a point in the characters lives where they didn't event want to be at first), and then finding comfort and love there. Everybody embraces their new role in the world.Freevohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630869943975627884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-8392160373441654542008-04-28T12:53:00.000-04:002008-04-28T12:53:00.000-04:00I am a loyal follower of the show but i simply hav...I am a loyal follower of the show but i simply have lost track of who the different versions of each cylon are (natalie, caprica6, head 6, Boomer, Athena). Is there any site that breaks down each different cyclon version and where each is currently?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-7090529466505170562008-04-28T11:20:00.000-04:002008-04-28T11:20:00.000-04:00Too much is happening inside the Galactica. The be...<I>Too much is happening inside the Galactica. The best episodes tend to be those that involve some external worry as well..Cylons chasing them...."</I><BR/><BR/>They can't have too many military action shots since most of that part of the cast is on the Demetrius. I'm assuming this decision will pay off later, but I keep wondering who's defending the fleet. <BR/><BR/>I hope this episode gets Aaron Douglas some recognition and meaty post-BSG roles. Chief (he'll always be Chief to me) has always been my favorite character, and his speech to Adama shows just how stoic he's been through all this. Everyone else has been allowed a meltdown except him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5093567820409664792008-04-28T10:54:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:54:00.000-04:00hartzler: I can't speak for anyone else, but I've ...<B>hartzler</B>: I can't speak for anyone else, but I've never seen Nicki Clyne in anything other than BSG, so I don't know if she's got chops or not. However, considering that Cally was clearly written to be unlikeable and that Cally ended up incredibly despicable, Clyne probably contributed a lot to that. So yeah, she might be really good.R.A. Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14851961356321735388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-75615073970829376522008-04-28T10:32:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:32:00.000-04:00Maybe everybody hates Callie because she was a rea...Maybe everybody hates Callie because she was a really good actress. I mean everyone seems to dislike her character. Could Nicki Clyne actually be pretty good?Hartzlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15131690303547016670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-25577600533370367942008-04-28T09:01:00.000-04:002008-04-28T09:01:00.000-04:00Great recap, Alan, even though I didn't like the e...Great recap, Alan, even though I didn't like the episode that much. We found the episode pretty boring and badly paced. The exception was the Tyrol ty-rade at the bar. Jesus, that was some cruel crap; but brilliantly acted. As much as I disliked Callie, hearing Tyrol say those things about her was incredibly disturbing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-55286023549600040472008-04-28T02:32:00.000-04:002008-04-28T02:32:00.000-04:00I'm gonna have to agree with Jason here. I kinda ...I'm gonna have to agree with Jason here. I kinda just sat through it, checking my watch along the way, and towards the end I was like... that's it? My summary for the episode would be... there is no summary. Nothing happened.<BR/><BR/>The most eventful thing was Tyrol's tirade and his demotion. Sure there were some interesting moments, like Roslin threatening Baltar, and Lee's WTF look at the end of the episode (that's how I viewed his reaction anyway). But I could've completely skipped this episode and not have noticed anything different.<BR/><BR/>As for character development... well I dunno, the show's been on long enough and we've had so many of these types of episodes/conflicts that I don't really care about that anymore and just want them to move the plot along. But I know that's what makes the show so great for others. They just didn't strike a good enough balance here for me.Kenrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06346565881555687494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-24947594368727904842008-04-28T01:26:00.000-04:002008-04-28T01:26:00.000-04:00What if Starbuck doesn't know the way to Earth?Wha...What if Starbuck doesn't know the way to Earth?<BR/><BR/>What if she does, but she's been told the moment the RTF find it, the Cylons will too, and they will destroy each other?<BR/><BR/>What if her tantrums were solely to get the 'best' of humanity onto a separate vessel, to preserve them until the battle has passed?<BR/><BR/>What if she represents the end of humanity because once she settles where she can with the Demetrius, once Anders interbreeds with Kara or someone else, humanity's humanity no more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33744351903085669642008-04-28T00:37:00.000-04:002008-04-28T00:37:00.000-04:00Going back to the first season (maybe the pilot, t...Going back to the first season (maybe the pilot, too, but I'd have to rewatch to confirm,) BSG has always provided title text when jumping to one of the other locales. It was always obvious that Boomer and Helo were on Caprica, for example, but they always told us. It's just part of the BSG house style.R.A. Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14851961356321735388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88201143149762576872008-04-27T19:40:00.000-04:002008-04-27T19:40:00.000-04:00Tony said: "Generally even the 'weak' episodes bec...Tony said: "Generally even the 'weak' episodes become stronger once the storylines playout. Can't tell you how many times I've caught a "weak" episode in a marathon, or in context with other episodes on DVD, where one can watch large chunks at a time, and they seem so much stronger as the throughline becomes more apparent."<BR/><BR/>I understand what you mean, but I'd argue that a weak episode is still a weak episode. In the context of marathon viewing, you may forgive a weak episode because it's got a lot of stuff that ends up paying off later. But as a single hourlong (okay, 42 minutes long) block followed by a week of waiting, this episode was weak. Not "Black Market" bad, but not good.<BR/><BR/>It might be somewhat redeemed in the larger context, but it still felt to me like 20 minutes of material. What some saw as good stuff I saw as going over material the show has already covered.<BR/><BR/>But I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I thought the Tyrol-Adama confrontation was a laugher. How many times have we seen an out-of-control person tell off their commanding officer and be demoted? Tyrol's rant didn't ring true to me, either.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I was in a bad mood when I saw this episode, but it was completely flat. And be honest, when was the last time you saw a location DURING A MONTAGE that had to be subtitled to explain where it was taking place? To me that's another sign of how slapdash the production of this show can sometimes be, with stuff shot one way and then saved in editing, other things omitted entirely.<BR/><BR/>It's usually a glorious mess. This one, I wouldn't call glorious.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038629195561926390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4306043885649116232008-04-27T19:39:00.000-04:002008-04-27T19:39:00.000-04:00"Why the frak did the Final Five survive the Cylon...<I>"Why the frak did the Final Five survive the Cylon plague?"</I><BR/><BR/>Ronald D. Moore has already said that the Final Five are real Cylons but fundamentally different - it's a bit of a cop-out, but it'll have to do for now..<BR/><BR/><I>"On the inclusion of the Demetrius, I think the point was not so much to see Starbuck as to see Anders."</I><BR/><BR/>I can't remember what the words were exactly, but we saw the shot of the Demitrius and Starbuck and Anders at the point where Baltar was speaking of seeing through the lies/deception of others. Most obviously that refers to Anders, but it could also be about Starbuck.<BR/><BR/>I do think the shot was there to remind us of them, though, but it was done pretty gracefully.<BR/><BR/>At the bit where Tirol hears Adama say he's a filthy Cylon etc. I loved how they showed us it didn't actually happen - the imagined Adama said those lines and immediately downed his whiskey, next shot he says he still misses Cally and only then gets his glass. I thought that was nice and subtle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-78781700544362266962008-04-27T16:09:00.000-04:002008-04-27T16:09:00.000-04:00Chip, I noticed Tigh and the diaper, and pointed i...Chip, I noticed Tigh and the diaper, and pointed it out to my husband, who just shrugged and said, "He's Tigh, he's the XO; he gets things done."<BR/><BR/>Do others see a parallel of how Ellen appeared to Tigh and how Head Six and Baltar appear to one another?<BR/><BR/>I did NOT like how Tyrol was looking at his kid at the end; that look told me that when he said he often wanted to kill Cally, he wasn't exaggerating. <BR/><BR/>In the "previously on" they edited Sam into the confrontation that Cally heard, even though he was on the Demetrius already. <BR/><BR/>And as he approached Starbuck, Baltar's words were something like recognizing others for what they are and how they're like you.<BR/><BR/>Lee's hair looked really poofy--I think this is another signal that he's a civilian now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-66735653361254753252008-04-27T14:28:00.000-04:002008-04-27T14:28:00.000-04:00BSG can be one of the best shows on TV, but it has...<I>BSG can be one of the best shows on TV, but it has always been maddeningly inconsistent. This episode, to me, was ultimately a waste of time.</I><BR/><BR/>I disagree. Generally even the "weak" episodes become stronger once the storylines playout. Can't tell you how many times I've caught a "weak" episode in a marathon, or in context with other episodes on DVD, where one can watch large chunks at a time, and they seem so much stronger as the throughline becomes more apparent.<BR/><BR/>As for Baltar as a cult leader: any Star Trek: Deep Space Nine fans out there? Ron Moore cut his teeth writing for that show, and BSG is almost a revisionist version of that series. Notice the parallels between: Sisko and both Adama (single father) and Roslin (messianic leader); the hierarchical Dominion with its hide-in-plain-sight Changeling leadership, and the similar Cylon culture; the "occupation" of DS9storyline and the "occupation" of New Caprica storyline. My point is Baltar's cult figurehead status is predated by the same storyline in DS9 when "frenemy" Gul Dukat ended up as a cult leader with so-called "good intentions" before the true depth of his self-serving evil was revealed.<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong. Though DS9 may be a sci-fi classic, derivative or not, BSG is far superior because it transcends its genre trappings. But methinks they travel a familiar road.Tony Dayoubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04632329277519635858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-58779788033021035932008-04-27T08:47:00.000-04:002008-04-27T08:47:00.000-04:00Also, I was thinking Rosilyn's hair was like that ...<EM>Also, I was thinking Rosilyn's hair was like that because it's a wig, due to the chemo.</EM><BR/><BR/>That's what she told Baltar.<BR/><BR/>I didn't even make the connection between the wig and how she looked in the opera house visions! Nice one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85174670651419473672008-04-27T02:32:00.000-04:002008-04-27T02:32:00.000-04:00It was a tiny moment, but how about seeing Tigh's ...It was a tiny moment, but how about seeing Tigh's maternal side. Saul Frakkin' Tigh knew how to change a diaper?Chiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00378740327432028227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-83052573125087423352008-04-26T21:10:00.000-04:002008-04-26T21:10:00.000-04:00I'm really enjoying the Baltar storyline. There we...I'm really enjoying the Baltar storyline. There were some real flashes of humor early in the episode -- before he got the crap kicked outta him -- when he was reacting to getting his hair-plucked, and trying to take Six's suggestions in real time. It's this odd mixture of knowing he's pulling a fast one, but really believing in it too. The Kris Kristofferson (sic?)/Taxi driver "Walking Contradiction" line comes to mind … <BR/><BR/>Also, I was thinking Rosilyn's hair was like that because it's a wig, due to the chemo. It did look real thin.<BR/><BR/>As always, love the write-up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33311637855725621622008-04-26T20:16:00.000-04:002008-04-26T20:16:00.000-04:00I don't want to get into another argument here, bu...I don't want to get into another argument here, but I guess I just can't believe that the Chief is a man who would fantasize about shooting his wife ("many times"), no matter how shrieking and vacant she may have been. I think there is much more going on in that scene than just what they're saying on the surface.<BR/><BR/>I don't think the Final Five would resurrect. In the previous episode both Cally and Cavil made reference to the cylons' "spare bodies." That must mean they have spare bodies sitting in the resurrection goo just waiting for a soul/consciousness/whatever to fill them, and seeing as the Seven don't know who the Final Five are, I don't see how they could have spare bodies for them lying around.<BR/><BR/>Ooh, good observation, sunspot. Anyone remember what Baltar's hair looked like in that scene?Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15758923671028899249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-15721705285812177362008-04-26T19:58:00.000-04:002008-04-26T19:58:00.000-04:00I'm not sure Roslin's cut is supposed to resemble ...I'm not sure Roslin's cut is supposed to resemble Admiral Cain's, but I did notice that her new stick-straight hair now more-or-less matches the straight hair she was sporting in her own visions of the Opera House, Hera and the Final Five. They're all definitely getting closer to something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-3334265542067058182008-04-26T19:25:00.000-04:002008-04-26T19:25:00.000-04:00No way Tigh eats his gun. Risk coming to on a Cycl...<I>No way Tigh eats his gun. Risk coming to on a Cyclon ship? Better the nightmare he knows...</I><BR/><BR/>Frakkin' resurrection ships. Hadn't even thought of that. But do the Final Five even resurrect? And isn't it a safe assumption that, since the fleet hasn't seen the Cylons in a long time (show-time), there wouldn't be a resurrection ship in range?Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.com