tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post4712914540718296340..comments2024-03-19T05:50:19.572-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Mad Men, "Shut the Door. Have a Seat": We're putting the band back togetherAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger379125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-17989207568529445932010-04-15T11:58:40.691-04:002010-04-15T11:58:40.691-04:00From UK: knocking at the suite in the Pierre, lon...From UK: knocking at the suite in the Pierre, long after all the other Sepinwallers have checked out, to offer thoughts on the finale which aired in Britain last night.<br /><br />Huzzah! Clearly Weiner had always intended to present Mad Men in distinct eras: pre-and-post-63.<br /><br />That’s why I’m sure he let Betty lift the shoebox lid just before the assassination episode, just before the new dawn of SCDP. He could have withheld the “shoebox” but it makes pivotal sense to spill it now.<br /><br />If Weiner was always going to use 63 as a definer, the only question was whether to overtly address JFK. Anyone dramatising 1963 simply has to consider “the bullet question” before grabbing a pen. <br /><br />It’s only through the spiralling tensions of the last three episodes that we can appreciate the bitterly enjoyable trial of S3, in contrast to the sweet and savoury S1 and S2.<br /><br />Anyone bailing from S3 because of the unsatisfactory appeal probably missed the point of MM.<br /><br />For it to be reflectively true it just can’t deliver easy-eye TV gold each week because that would betray the episodic evolution of the 60s. We chart the milestones and match the on-screen moods to the time progress we know. Fun.<br /><br />That’s surely what MM is all about? Re-charting a monumental era to our media-savvy 21st century hindsight? Whether it’s via soap or nutshell-episodes (both) is irrelevant.<br /><br />That’s why, I think, it’s wrong to think we’ve seen the last of Betty, or that she’ll be diluted. She’s in the “holy trinity” - Don, Peggy and Betty in order - and the rest, even with their hierarchies (e.g. Joan, Roger, Pete and Bert on tier II) are support. Apart from the fact that Weiner would be nuts to diminish JJ (she’s blonde, gorgeous, can act with peculiar idiosyncrasy [this board is obsessed!] and is a catwalk clothes horse [with Hendricks and Brie] for the era styles [that aesthetic delight is an essential part of the MM mix]) it’s pretty clear from the seasons so far that JJ was always going to be an ever-present. Why else have we witnessed so many solo moments (worlds away from SC) at the horses, with weird Glen, shooting geese etc.?<br /><br />The women’s movement, civil and gay rights, divorce, TV-kids, music, fashion, booze, cigarettes, mass travel, consumerism, ennui, greed: they’re all MM staples to explore and we chart them chiefly through the paths of Don, Peggy and Bets and how they fare and with whom.<br /> <br />Despite its title, MM isn’t just about Madison Ave. I’m more convinced than ever that the chief dramatic influence on Weiner was Billy Wilder’s “The Apartment” (the homages still appear). But where Jack Lemmon and Co. barely scraped the changing social mores, MM has expanded on the back story of “The Apartment”. The rampant office affairs with serious knock-on consequences in the workplace, in homes and for gender politics. Likewise the hideous corporate caricatures Wilder drew have been lusciously explored by Weiner. Long may it continue. <br /><br />* About The Beatles first being played on US radio on the Monday that SCDP started business. True. But The Beatles were first introduced to the US on the morning of November 22nd 1963 (yep, that date!) through a CBS vignette due to air fully later that day. It’s quite a thought that the CBS teaser about four lads from my hometown might have been seen by JFK that morning in his Fort Worth hotel. The CBS full package then didn’t air until December 10th 1963 and, in turn, that coverage (anchored by Kronkite) prompted 14-year-old Marsha Albert to contact a Washington DJ about “I Wanna Hold Your Hand”. <br />CBS story and package video: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/16/entertainment/main593654.shtml<br /><br />So Weiner really has pitched it all chronologically perfectly. <br /><br />Thanks Alan and thank-you fellow MM bloggers - especially with all the nuances on everything from Penn Station to Hermes scarves!<br /><br />*grabs leftover Trudy cake and last looks round around the Pierre and can’t wait to discover where you’ll all pitch up*GWAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01840883223560338540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-30495122635418473172010-02-11T10:55:57.696-05:002010-02-11T10:55:57.696-05:00I'd like to weigh in as a corporate Attorney: ...I'd like to weigh in as a corporate Attorney: Lane definitely breached a fiduciary duty to PPL. Yes, he had the authority to fire in his discretion, but he used his discretion in this instance not in the interest of his employer but in the interest of this new business venture. I was also screaming "they can't do that!" when they took the confidential and proprietary information out of the office over the weekend. Then I thought, this is 1963. They may have signed non-competes, but its not a certainty that they would have signed confidentiality or ownership of work product agreements that are standard practice now. I am not even sure laws related to fiduciary duty were as clear and as settled then as they are now.Crispus Attuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07818402775964826495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-78409270228237063652010-01-03T16:52:37.555-05:002010-01-03T16:52:37.555-05:00My initial reaction to Pete's being approached...My initial reaction to Pete's being approached first was that they figured out he was bailing, and had already done the spadework necessary to bring the clients with. <br /><br />If Kenny had been brought into the plot instead of Pete, it might have taken weeks, rather than a weekend, to reassure nervous clients. In Pete's case, this was already done. <br /><br />That said, wouldn't Kenny have at least paid for himself? How many clients would it have taken? 1?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-38308980627765585112009-11-26T19:34:29.478-05:002009-11-26T19:34:29.478-05:00Alan,
I agree with almost all you wrote. But . ....Alan,<br /><br />I agree with almost all you wrote. But . . .<br /><br />Look at Betty in the last call between her and Don. Turn off the sound and watch her face and body. The things Don says are not at all what she wants to hear. She has no satisfaction in his not fighting her. There is only disappointment. And she is definitely not getting what she wants which is the Don she had thought she was marrying. That’s the Don that would love her and her alone, that would be loyal and sharing and caring about her. <br /><br />I can’t believe Weiner would go to all that trouble if it didn’t mean something. Also, Shahdaroba is about lost love, and doesn’t fit SCDP or even Don since he doesn’t know how to love anyone. <br /><br />It goes something like this:<br /><br />When tears flow And you don’t know What on earth to do And your world is blue; When your dream dies And your heart cries, Shahdaroba. It means the future is much better than the past. In the future you will find a love that lasts. <br /><br />It’s about Betty. Her dream died in the last call. May she find that love. <br /><br />PS<br />Some find real fault with Betty. One asked why she didn’t give Dick a chance once she knew who he was. The reason is that he did not take responsibility for or apologize for or even confess any wrong he had done since they were married. He still didn’t take her into confidence about his work and where he really was when he went out. Nothing changed with him because he can’t make it change until his own pain, from his childhood, is healed. <br /><br />Most don’t seem to know the difference a man can make in a woman’s life, and vice-versa, for better or worse. A Philanderer kills his wife’s spirit. That’s why she acted so badly more and more as the series went on. Betty hoped to make Don change by threatening divorce. He didn’t get it just like he doesn’t get it about his own life. So the call was her last chance.plmpsn63007https://www.blogger.com/profile/02319675641446358984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88204361444050561822009-11-25T15:41:10.634-05:002009-11-25T15:41:10.634-05:00Did anyone notice Trudy's fun rhythmic knock o...Did anyone notice Trudy's fun rhythmic knock on the door when she brought in the food to SCDP? Can anyone identify what song she was knocking to or was it just an improvised pattern?Imrannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-39730246641046043012009-11-22T17:15:26.983-05:002009-11-22T17:15:26.983-05:00I searched, no one's mentioned the great line ...I searched, no one's mentioned the great line by Trudy when everyone's thanking her for bringing the sandwiches: "I know how you boys - and girls - can be." Loved the after-thought but equally enthusiastic inclusion of girls. Bring on the women...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-37810019881177141262009-11-16T22:10:17.736-05:002009-11-16T22:10:17.736-05:00Loved the episode. Made me bawl and then be thrill...Loved the episode. Made me bawl and then be thrilled just minutes later.<br /><br />My main disappointments - I love Ken, I want him in.<br /><br />And more importantly, everyone (except for Harry who is an idiot...honestly they should've asked Ken to run the media department, Harry is useless) ASKED for something - Pete for partnership, Peggy for respect - when joining the new group. <br /><br />Everyone except Joan...she just got back to doing everything perfectly just as she always did. I hope that if SCDP aren't smart enough to give Joan the position she deserves that she will stand up for herself and ask for it.DiscoLemonadenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-37842666138847406212009-11-14T15:08:50.265-05:002009-11-14T15:08:50.265-05:00After I saw the season finale, I was reading Malco...After I saw the season finale, I was reading Malcolm Gladwell's new book, What the Dog Saw, which is a series of essays previously published in the New Yorker. One of these, True Colors, is about the advertising industry and in it he writes about Jack Tinker and Partners, which was the brain child of adman, Marion Harper, about whom Gladwell says:<br /><br />"His solution was to pluck a handful of the very best and brightest from McCann and set them up, first in the Waldorf Towers (in the suite directly below the Duke and Duchess of Windsor’s and directly above General Douglas MacArthur’s) and then, more permanently, in the Dorset Hotel, on West Fifty-fourth Street, overlooking the Museum of Modern Art....Tinker started with four partners and a single phone. But by the end of the sixties it had taken over eight floors of the Dorset."<br /><br />Sounds eerily familiar. Any thoughts on this?Mary McManushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00504207219135852444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-86483183987503911162009-11-14T13:58:58.570-05:002009-11-14T13:58:58.570-05:00Julia said,
"I saw my ex's psychiatry tex...Julia said,<br /><i>"I saw my ex's psychiatry textbooks when he was in med school about that time. There was a lot written about women who reject the "woman's role". They were considered neurotic and un-womanly."</i><br /><br />I think women who reject marriage and/or motherhood are still considered neurotic in a sense--or at the very least, cold and selfish. Think of the recent spate of movies featuring the desperately lonely career woman: <i>The Proposal, The Ugly Truth, The Wedding Date, et al.</i><br /><br />I'm 35 and single and my last date was floored when he learned that I'd never been married---never mind his two divorces! He considered that normal, but was clearly wondering what fatal flaw kept me from getting hitched. :0/YMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-62779669925812919982009-11-14T09:52:27.215-05:002009-11-14T09:52:27.215-05:00Wonderful episode.
Just one observation, since pre...Wonderful episode.<br />Just one observation, since pretty much everything else has been mentioned by now; Harry Crane does his work on the bed of the hotel room, although there is clearly a desk back against the wall.Fake the Funknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54467402502753233582009-11-13T20:10:07.965-05:002009-11-13T20:10:07.965-05:00Re-watching, and chuckling again at one of the man...Re-watching, and chuckling again at one of the many great lines from Roger: "Accounts gets the bed!"<br /><br />Off-topic @MMS: FNL on Direct TV is in its 3rd week. When that's over in 10 weeks, what then?Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-47993136740064500622009-11-13T14:54:04.210-05:002009-11-13T14:54:04.210-05:00Thanks Alan and posters. What a fabulous ending. ...Thanks Alan and posters. What a fabulous ending. Fun a la caper I absolutely agree, but... how could everyone fail to mention one of the happiest capers ever? The Sting! And, it stars two men with looks and charisma in the same mold as Don Draper. When does the next season start? What can I look forward to until then? When does FNL air on cable?MMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15465912650766957681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45391046810532605772009-11-13T14:51:09.665-05:002009-11-13T14:51:09.665-05:00I am so reluctant to say good bye to this forum un...I am so reluctant to say good bye to this forum until next Summer. Although, I will definitely have more time for the other things in my life until S3 of "Breaking Bad."<br /><br />By the end of the week, I usually start letting my imagination run wild with predictions for the next episode. Although the next episode will not air until next Summer, that didn't stop my imagination from running wild once again.<br /><br />I have been puzzled and confused by Adam's timeline. In Season 1 we see a flashback of an eight year old Adam waiting with Abigail and Uncle Mac for the arrival of Dick's body post Korea. When Adam meets Don at the coffee shop, a point is made of his telling Don that he was only eight years old but he knew he spotted Dick on the train. However, we have been repeatedly shown a photo of what appears to also be an eight year old boy, who is on a horse with a young man standing beside him. Every time we are shown this photo, it is turned over and we see that it is inscribed "Dick and Adam 1944." This absolutely cannot be a mistake. Therefore, the only conclusion I can come to is that there were two Adams. Adam #1 was eight in 1944, and Adam #2 was eight in the early 50s.<br /><br />As I stated after Betty's discovery of the shoebox in the desk, there is a lot more to Dick Whitman's past. Switching identities was just the tip of the iceberg. Don reacted much too strongly to being found out for it to just be the identity switch.<br /><br />Of course, I have an idea as to who Adam #2 is, but for now I will keep that to myself and enjoy the opportunity to once again review Season 1. I need to check out a fact or two.PanAm53https://www.blogger.com/profile/13133526724573682036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89604682840407924702009-11-13T13:01:04.843-05:002009-11-13T13:01:04.843-05:00Alan, thank you for giving everyone such a great f...Alan, thank you for giving everyone such a great forum to share our passionate reactions to Mad Men. <br /><br />Sara j., if you re-watch the S1 episode Shoot where Betty gets fired from her modeling job with Coca-Cola, I think you’ll remember how well January Jones cries. When she covered her eyes while Bobby begged Don not to leave, I felt it was because she couldn’t watch such a heart-breaking scene and keep her resolve. Or maybe I just couldn't. <br /><br />Muck, I also thought Betty seemed disappointed during Don’s phone call. I think she was hoping he would apologize and admit that he treated her like she never was enough for him. The night he confronted her about Henry Francis, she could have defended herself by saying she'd never slept with Henry and that Don was the one who’d lied and cheated their whole marriage. But the most she said was that she was never enough for him. And she let him believe Dick Whitman wasn't good enough for her because she wanted to hurt him and for it all to be over. To me, Betty's look on the plane reflected fear about the future and sadness over what remains unsaid between her and Don.<br /><br />Hopefully Betty and Henry will make each other happy. Betty desperately needs a chance to prove she is not just a spoiled housewife and bad mother. It would be refreshing to read fewer negative comments about her next season.<br /><br />The 2 scenes between Don and Peggy knocked my socks off. She handled herself beautifully in his office by not giving in to his power trip approach. The speech he delivers in her apartment is imo the most genuine and heartfelt one of the series. Her tears and concern that he would never speak to her again were dead on for someone in her position. Don and Peggy's interactions are the most real on the show. Karen, I agree Don's response was romantic and won Peggy over. And as sexy as Don Draper is when he's charming clients and seducing mistresses, to me he was at his sexiest in Peggy's apartment, being his truest self. And I've also noticed Peggy looking bigger and worrying about another pregnancy.<br /><br />Trudy grew on me earlier this season, so I'm thrilled so many other posters enjoy the Trudy/Pete team.<br /><br />Before they leave SC, Joan says to herself that her husband is going to kill her and Roger gives her a look. Where will this lead?<br /><br />Jon Hamm's acting in his brief scene with Connie was outstanding. <br /><br />I will so miss this show and this blog until S4.mmjoannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-22594148960891693212009-11-12T14:28:16.000-05:002009-11-12T14:28:16.000-05:00Best moment of the episode, for me, was the follow...Best moment of the episode, for me, was the following exchange:<br />Trudy: "Peter, may I please speak with you?"<br />Pete: hangs his head because he knows she's right. <br /><br />I thought Pete was chosen over Ken for two reasons, either of which would be sufficient on its own. First, as others pointed out, Lane said that only people that could be trusted to say "yes" were to be asked. Second, Pete has proven himself to be a far better strategic thinker than Ken. Pete has the vision to see aeronautics, the black market, etc. Ken has only shown that he's a good cog in a machine, which is not what SCDP needs.<br /><br />And for my money, Lane leaving PPL was a given after "Guy Walks into an Advertising Agency." In the hospital near the end of the episode, Lane tells Don that he feels like he just attended his own funeral, and he didn't like the eulogy. The "eulogy" I believe referred to St. John Powell telling Lane that Lane always did what he was told. I have been thinking about Lane's eulogy comment a lot. It hits close to home.RMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33568739793810926762009-11-12T14:17:00.312-05:002009-11-12T14:17:00.312-05:00It suddenly came to me that Don breaking Cooper...It suddenly came to me that Don breaking Cooper's ant farm midway through the season was foreshadowing far the finale. Sterling Cooper thrown apart with ants going their different ways.EChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16367952244022061118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-795015793605664292009-11-11T21:19:22.055-05:002009-11-11T21:19:22.055-05:00Big J says
I love that this show gets tiny thin...Big J says<br /> I love that this show gets tiny things right. There is a framed horseshoe on Don's desk, echoing the horseshoe mark on his dead dad's face.<br /> Campbell? He has a saddlebag of accts. but his work on focusing on the "Negro market" is forward looking in that it sees that marketing to subsets of the population instead of "one size fits all" is the future.<br /> I do agree with the person who said Bert c is the Old Ninja. At each pt. of the negotiation, he throws his weight with the right touch. The golf=retirement=death is perfect and when the idea of firing everyone comes up, he lights up. And finally, his warning to Harry "if you dither, we can lock you in the storage room for the weekend"--perfect.<br /> I was very moved, as many here, by the final meeting of Peggy and Don. He is honest with her. "I need you" is in effect what he says. You understand that big boys buy us and toss us around...and I could swear he says "I will spend my life trying to hire you"--I don't think he says he "won't" because it would break the flow of where he's been going.<br /> what a wonderful episode and such great comments by Alan and all of you.ivorycoasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04431477260749353468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-2571431502017516602009-11-11T20:13:56.352-05:002009-11-11T20:13:56.352-05:00It's 3 days later and I'm still absorbed w...It's 3 days later and I'm still absorbed with thinking about this finale. This show is superb. Alan, I just learned about your blog. I wish I had known about it all season!! Your insights are right on and a joy to read. I can't add much more than to say that not having been blown away by Joan's character until that "lovely" lawnmower episode, she was one of the highlights of this episode by far. Her tact and "know how" are complete perfection: "furnished or unfurnished?... Sorry." She is fantastic! Love the Betty and Don are over, presumably. It will be interesting to see how Weiner incorporates her next season. They symbolism of this show sets it apart. Can't WAIT for next season! It's going to be a long 9 months...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-84224586115205690652009-11-11T13:26:51.196-05:002009-11-11T13:26:51.196-05:00I don't worry about the legality of the SCDP g...I don't worry about the legality of the SCDP group taking the job bags, files, art, etc....<br /><br />I can't see Mad Men turning into a courtroom drama next season. That would kill the show.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08019880958697449440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-70220405897534395102009-11-11T06:39:37.530-05:002009-11-11T06:39:37.530-05:00Two details I haven't seen mentioned:
When J...Two details I haven't seen mentioned: <br />When Joan comes swanning in, watch Cooper standing just slightly behind her giving her a very solid once over foot to hip. Probably it was seeing her in those cool black capris that got his heart pumping.<br /><br />The other is when they are in the room before Trudy arrives with lunch, they are all working - except Roger, who is reading the paper. Such a great touch. He's got his one client and at the moment probably doesn't need to do any actual work so he's hanging out reading.<br /><br />When Pryce said they would have to "obtain" the materials they would need for client continuity - Don himself said "Obtain? We have to steal them." Some, if not most the materials they made off with are the work product of the agency and therefore, the property of the agency. <br /><br />I actually lean more towards Don never approaching Connie again - if anything, since Connie clearly has his hear to the ground (since he knew about this sale before anyone at SC), I'd like him to learn about Don't new venture and eventually approach him to take on him as a client.<br /><br />For me, that would be so much more satisfying than Don going to him to ask for his business.<br /><br />Pryce said, when they were plotting their getaway, that they would need a "skeletal staff" to get started and they chose the core group they needed to keep some continuity going and money coming in - if they value some of the others at SC, once they get situated a bit, they'll likely make an offer.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907719414697373056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33071654852960099362009-11-10T22:25:14.746-05:002009-11-10T22:25:14.746-05:00SMC (anonymous) pointed out that the creative mate...SMC (anonymous) pointed out that the creative materials actually belong to the client.<br /><br />That's true if they had "Work for Hire" or its equivalent in those days. When I was a freelance writer I mostly produced "Work for Hire" (belonged to the client) vs work for which I owned the copyright. Mostly it was Work for Hire. <br /><br />But client files, receipts, mailing lists, job jackets, etc are definitely SC property. <br /><br />I'm not too worried about it either, though. It was fun watching them steal all of it w/o a care in the world. Not like nowadays where some thugs hand you a small box, you pack your stuff while they watch (making sure you don't trash or copy your hard drive, etc) and walk you to the elevator or to your car. Bye bye.<br /><br />Anon1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1050461198430831582009-11-10T20:51:30.533-05:002009-11-10T20:51:30.533-05:00Alan, there's at least one bright side to the ...Alan, there's at least one bright side to the comma-less Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce. Had the show been set in the '90s, they might have gone the stylish route of JPMorganChase or PriceWaterhouseCooper -- totally space-less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-26891321424701146542009-11-10T20:43:11.767-05:002009-11-10T20:43:11.767-05:00I like the comparison to a caper film, although it...I like the comparison to a caper film, although it seems like a combination of several suggestions made. "The Magnificient Seven" comparison works in terms of talking recruits into coming on board. "The Dirty Dozen" works in terms of different talents among the team. And the "Oceans 11" comparison works not just in terms of a team, but more in terms of at the end of "Oceans 11" you have the looted casino left behind and that certainly happened here, with the robbery talk.<br /><br />The other element that was missing from those comparisons for me was that we knew going in the pool of people to pull from for the team unlike the films mentioned above: the "who is in/who is out?" element lifted the drama above those putting the team together scenarios. But one of the posters mentioned "John Adams" which I think is an excellent comparison. Adams is recruiting a team of sorts himself and we know the historical figures who join/don't join. I suppose "Oceans 12" works too but I have not seen those movies so I am just guessing.<br /><br />The one element that I am still confused on is the Ken comment that Pete tryed to sway John Deere Saturday night. It seemed so implausable that I thought at the time that Ken was lying, trying to paint a picture of Pete as failing to acquire one of Ken's accounts and the account Ken had the biggest role in bringing to the old Sterling Cooper. Seems like a very salesman-like comment to make, Pete would look like the favorite of the Sterling Cooper Draper trio and this comment (and bringing up John Deere who he brought on board) would serve to undercut that. My experience with salesmen is they can be very petty much like Pete is with his Ken and his haircut remark so it would be poetic for see the normally high roadish Ken discredit Pete in his rare moment of achievement. But I guess with it all happening so quickly, it is unlikely Ken would come up with a story like that.<br /><br />If we suppose that Ken is telling the truth, then what those that say about Pete? Pete was told to meet the "sales goal" or not bother showing up. I believe he was also told that this needed to stay a secret or it would jeopardize the whole new company. So it sounds like Pete went for an unlikely client on Saturday, risking the whole venture. It suggests to me a philosphy of "I am going to come on board as a partner and if I fail and the word gets out, what do I care because I wasn't going to be a partner with the new SC anyway". Plus he had the other firm he was going to as a fallback position.<br /><br />I look forward to other thoughts on Ken's statement; I feel like there might be something more here than Pete had to get Clearsil from his wife's father because he could not get there on his own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-7274295102708292402009-11-10T17:58:28.452-05:002009-11-10T17:58:28.452-05:00I think Don and Connie will get back together. Don...I think Don and Connie will get back together. Don vented and Connie took it, then Connie dared Don to greatness. They ended up shaking hands and both agreeing that perhaps they'd have a chance to work together again. Don was disappointed, of course, but you could already see him looking forward, putting it in a pragmatic perspective -- compartmentalizing, if you will.<br /><br />Don may approach Connie again, but not before firmly establishing his new agency. If he went to Connie right away, it would feel like asking for help.<br />Later on he'll have something to show Connie, something to impress him with, something that will put them on somewhat equal footing, as two men who took a risk and built something themselves. Then, ideally, he and Connie can have a relationship on more equal terms, as businessmen and not father/son.Rob Biesenbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13681772034441150865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-15323738307180551992009-11-10T17:31:12.022-05:002009-11-10T17:31:12.022-05:00Courtney, I agree Don is fed up with Connie. As he...Courtney, I agree Don is fed up with Connie. As he should be. That whole father/son thing was just creepy.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705788002352470163noreply@blogger.com