tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post8961865781562392469..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Treme, "Do You Know What It Means": The 'n' is for 'nuance'Alan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-87635459571431594152010-07-15T19:56:58.376-04:002010-07-15T19:56:58.376-04:00I'm Australian, we just got the first episode ...I'm Australian, we just got the first episode on cable this week. I'm a big fan of The Wire, definitely the show that will always stay with me. Obviously I was excited to hear about Treme.<br /><br />The cold open is beautiful; what an introduction. I've re-watched it about four times since I first watched it last night. I can't get the smile off my face when I'm watching it; makes me really REALLY want to be there, despite the ruin around them. The music in this opening (and throughout the episode) was just sensational. Makes me wanna go dance on a car.<br /><br />The rest of the episode felt strangely familiar; that is, the slow burn. The Wire took a few eps to get me, and the mere promise of that happening again will keep me watching this show.Philhttp://bigeyedeer.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-76122254864613410252010-04-23T21:08:31.587-04:002010-04-23T21:08:31.587-04:00Anachronism #1: (and AFAIK, noone's caught it...Anachronism #1: (and AFAIK, noone's caught it yet) -- When "Lester" and his daughter drive over the Twin Span, you can see the Superdome in the distance ... with it's roof intact. 3 months after, the Superdome still looked like <a href="http://www.terradaily.com/images/hurricane-katrina-superdome-afp-bg.jpg" rel="nofollow">this</a>.BFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264282750160516858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77551321220120902422010-04-17T00:17:04.330-04:002010-04-17T00:17:04.330-04:00Aaron Riccio: Please see commenting rules re: fut...Aaron Riccio: Please see commenting rules re: future episodes. Thank you.Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11571404669483310982010-04-15T20:58:23.154-04:002010-04-15T20:58:23.154-04:00^^
ohhhh booooy...
now that he doesn't have U...^^<br />ohhhh booooy...<br /><br />now that he doesn't have UBM to troll anymore, this guy is going to try and ruin the Treme recaps?<br /><br />please no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85791157181252026032010-04-15T10:29:18.746-04:002010-04-15T10:29:18.746-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Plane Ideas https://www.blogger.com/profile/13838821721942426785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-81575224141222185242010-04-14T13:47:54.958-04:002010-04-14T13:47:54.958-04:00Based on the reviews, I was expecting something a ...Based on the reviews, I was expecting something a lot more dense and challenging. That would have been fine with me, but I was surprised by how accessible I found the pilot. The characters were so strongly established that everything else just seemed to make sense to me. (I don't really remember the first episode of The Wire at this point, but I remember it took me several episodes to start understanding what was going on). The cast is so incredible I would watch them in just about any show.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06595253772380762153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1284044921162127502010-04-14T07:36:47.837-04:002010-04-14T07:36:47.837-04:00I watched it again, giving it the same respect I u...I watched it again, giving it the same respect I used to give The Wire, and I *got* more of the details, but I cared less. I'm just not so much enthralled with New Orleans as I thought or hoped I'd be. Some of the music is nice but there was one kind of hybrid number, the Louis Prima number (I just looked it) made me want to barf and I had to mute it. I guess it is not a given that I will love every little thing that David Simon loves. <br /><br />Some thoughts:<br /><br />Steve Zahn was a little annoying but I started to warm to him over the bottle of wine. <br /><br />Leo looks older, and so do I.<br /><br />I didn't know The Bunk could play like that.<br /><br />Overall, I dunno- I'll watch again and give it a chance. But please, no more Louis Prima!!!!Trilbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11231714243694621645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-83096657561882512342010-04-13T20:57:39.381-04:002010-04-13T20:57:39.381-04:00Loved it! The music was just phenomenal! The onl...Loved it! The music was just phenomenal! The only detail that stuck out as odd to me was the fact that none of the musicians seemed to have cases for their instruments. I've never met a professional musician without one...unless it's a NO thing, who knows, I've never been there. <br /><br />Anyone know who is really playing trombone for the character of Antoine? Wendell Pierce can't be THAT good, can he?<br /><br />Also, Anonymous 6:22, it isn't jingoism to say that jazz could only have been born in America - in fact it only could have been born in New Orleans, because of the incredible blend of cultures and influences found there in the 19th century. Not just European and African, but also Latin, Creole and Carribean. At least, according to my History of Jazz teacher at music school. <br /><br />Also, yes, jazz is a legacy of slavery - this is a pretty well known fact. A lot, actually most, of great art, literature and music has come out of periods of great suffering. Calling jazz America's greatest cultural achievement doesn't mean condoning slavery.musicmajornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73503548346639660102010-04-13T18:22:39.120-04:002010-04-13T18:22:39.120-04:00I don't have much to say about the pilot. I do...I don't have much to say about the pilot. I don't really get it. But I wanted to mention an interview Simon gave on <i>Treme</i> (<br />http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/04/09/david-simon-treme-interview-excerpts-and-highlights/<br />) where he had this to say<br /><br /><i>[Y]ou go into a shabeen or a tavern or a pub anywhere in the world, Johannesburg, Budapest, Katmandu, and Michael Jackson or Otis Redding or Fats Domino or John Coltrane -- African American music, which came into the world here, in twelve square blocks, has gone out into the world. And it stands for us. And the cool thing about that is, that's our greatest cultural contribution by far. <br />....<br />This thing could only happen because we're mutts. It could only happen because of the American ideal in practice, which is to say that it doesn't happen without European instrumentation and arrangement and it doesn't happen without African rhythms and a blues scale, a pentatonic scale. It could only happen here, and it could only happen through the wonderfully miscegenated American experience. We are all each other, to an extent.</i><br /><br />This is Simon at his worst spewing his nationalistic rhetoric: "us" "our" "we're" "the American ideal in practice" "here" "we are all each other". (I recommend he read Michael Billig's <i>Banal Nationalism</i> to help free himself from this ideology.) And it is BS. Every culture, including every musical form, and every ethnicity everywhere in the too bloody world is a product of miscegenation. "European instrumentation" and "African rhythms" are as miscegenate as the so-called "American experience." But note especially what Simon leaves out, that "our greatest cultural contribution so far" is in fact a legacy of slavery. Not cool, Simon. Some of us choose actively to reject cultural legacies of slavery that do not make that legacy uncomfortable. Another reason why <i>The Wire</i> was cool.<br /><br /><i>The Wire</i>'s brilliant critique of the economic/political imperatives of postmodern capitalist society through the metaphor of "the game," and the inhumanity immanent in the applicability of that metaphor to how society is organized, excised identity politics. Simon explicitly rejected race as important in <i>The Wire</i> as well as internally negating identity politics with rhetorical devices like parallels and the mixing and matching of races, communities, institutions, sexes, and sexual preferences, demonstrating common victimization to the logic of the game. But now Simon's gone and got all cultural on us, and from what he has said it seems <i>Treme</i> has been seeped in jingoism, nationalism, historical ignorance and historical repression. It will be interesting to see where it goes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4003237622885063862010-04-13T16:46:38.521-04:002010-04-13T16:46:38.521-04:00Good news: HBO has already ordered a second season...Good news: <a href="http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/04/treme-hbo-1.html" rel="nofollow">HBO has already ordered a second season</a> of "Treme."Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-8069720372123627342010-04-13T14:07:00.754-04:002010-04-13T14:07:00.754-04:00Only David Simon can make a worn out dirty city sp...Only David Simon can make a worn out dirty city spectacular. Some great shots of this one great city looking so empty and lost now, just great, looking forward to the rest.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115455559805670384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77659220239739079762010-04-13T13:44:26.555-04:002010-04-13T13:44:26.555-04:00Great pilot ep. Simon has this amazing ability of...Great pilot ep. Simon has this amazing ability of capturing real life in TV drama's.<br /><br />Wendell Pierce, and Clarke Peters were perfectly cast. I'm guessing will see some appearances from "Wire" alum in future eps.Kujohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10078809694509169496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72487839201838719212010-04-13T11:13:42.620-04:002010-04-13T11:13:42.620-04:00The expression on Clarke Peters's face when he...The expression on Clarke Peters's face when he entered his ruined home for the first time was phenomenal. It exactly mirrored my feelings when I entered my own ruins for the first (and last) time Mardi Gras 2006. Watching Sunday night, I, well, teared up. <br /><br />In response to many of the comments, shortly after my son left for his freshman year in Cambridge, he said to me, "Mother, now I know why you say that New Orleans isn't like the rest of the United States. I thought all cities had brass bands marching in the street." Um, no, child,,,,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-51100914829566617312010-04-13T09:59:01.181-04:002010-04-13T09:59:01.181-04:00Finally watched it last night and I liked it a lot...Finally watched it last night and I liked it a lot. I can seem myself loving it very quickly. The music will help. <br />I thought Clarke Peters was phenomenal, but I wouldn't expect anything less from the man that gave us Lestor Freamon. <br />I hope the Davis character will grow on me, because I'm not too crazy about Steve Zahn.<br />I hope we get to see some familiar faces from the Wire as this progresses, because I miss my Wire actors.Indeednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64247122735061348742010-04-13T07:12:51.502-04:002010-04-13T07:12:51.502-04:00Can anyone tell me when this episode is supposed t...<i>Can anyone tell me when this episode is supposed to take place. It is not 2010, right? But rather sooner after Katrina. Am I right?</i><br /><br />Like they said in the opening text, it's set "three months after".<br /><br />I really enjoyed it. I was expecting it to have a great sense of place, but I wasn't expecting New Orleans to feel so completely alien - in a good way. And yet the broad strokes of the story were clear and understandable, even if the finer New Orleans details weren't explained. I look forward to getting a greater understanding of the culture as the season and series continue.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08196372589248892579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-71495489866621414592010-04-13T03:20:51.638-04:002010-04-13T03:20:51.638-04:00Can anyone tell me when this episode is supposed t...Can anyone tell me when this episode is supposed to take place. It is not 2010, right? But rather sooner after Katrina. Am I right?Trilbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11231714243694621645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-17880432931996485382010-04-13T03:16:49.216-04:002010-04-13T03:16:49.216-04:00Anonymous said...
My remote that can draw up ...<i>Anonymous said...<br /><br /> My remote that can draw up subtitles isn't functioning... question: What's the first thing Elvis said to Davis, after Davis' "National treasure."</i><br /><br />"If the nation but knew."Scott J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-38412829834182702872010-04-13T00:02:26.196-04:002010-04-13T00:02:26.196-04:00DC,
I am also going to be in NOLA this weekend (f...DC, <br />I am also going to be in NOLA this weekend (friend's wedding). I'm sure your girlfriend's sister will have plenty of fun planned but if you need any suggestions:<br /><br />If you want to see some good free music and aren't annoyed by undergrads, Tulane is having what sounds like a great free music festival. 10 dollars for all you can eat crawfish. Bring your own booze in a plastic container.<br /><br />http://crawfest.tulane.edu/<br /><br />The lineup is really good, especially for FREE. Dirty Dozen, Trombone Shorty (the real trombone player Batiste's chracter was filling in for), Jon Cleary, Radiators. <br /><br />I'm also going to try to catch the Soul Rebels at Les Bon Temps on Thursday.<br /><br />Have fun!Tulaniennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-12750989329150684032010-04-12T23:37:35.633-04:002010-04-12T23:37:35.633-04:00Thanks, Aaron.Thanks, Aaron.LAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868479477550590056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11550807085011069392010-04-12T22:16:37.389-04:002010-04-12T22:16:37.389-04:00I'm going to NOLA on wednesday to visit my gir...I'm going to NOLA on wednesday to visit my girlfriend's sister (who lives in the french quarter and was an extra on an episode of Treme)...and needless to say, as a music junkie, this premiere has me so excited to experience the cityDChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849852478235600602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-69971696008629197762010-04-12T20:54:32.996-04:002010-04-12T20:54:32.996-04:00Otto, I really think Davis will grow on you.
Glad...<i>Otto, I really think Davis will grow on you.</i><br /><br />Glad to hear that. I'm a music buff and a former radio DJ, so he was the character I expected to identify with the most.Otto Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14051682366565874144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-75969138457013621722010-04-12T17:09:59.175-04:002010-04-12T17:09:59.175-04:00My remote that can draw up subtitles isn't fun...My remote that can draw up subtitles isn't functioning... question: What's the first thing Elvis said to Davis, after Davis' "National treasure."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-91138077624090481612010-04-12T17:03:04.617-04:002010-04-12T17:03:04.617-04:00LA, HBO bills it as a series. And Otto, I really t...LA, HBO bills it as a series. And Otto, I really think Davis will grow on you.Aaron Ricciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05003634532469211190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-13148413438000185882010-04-12T16:49:41.435-04:002010-04-12T16:49:41.435-04:00I sincerely enjoyed the hell out of Treme. Having...I sincerely enjoyed the hell out of Treme. Having a character-driven plot and it's heavy use of music, it's like it was custom-designed to please me. <br /><br />I thought the opening credits were amazing with the faded local scenes and faces integrated into the mold on the walls. That really blew me away.<br /><br />Question... is this a mini-series or is it a series that could have multiple seasons? Anyone know?LAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868479477550590056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19789465398868224952010-04-12T16:40:27.705-04:002010-04-12T16:40:27.705-04:00I was prepared to be let down after all the hype, ...I was prepared to be let down after all the hype, but I loved it. <br /><br />For me, Zahn's character is the only weak note. The rest was amazing.Otto Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14051682366565874144noreply@blogger.com