tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post1054668360814932390..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Hung, "Pilot": Tool, shedAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-51906144214672704592009-07-01T00:07:49.200-04:002009-07-01T00:07:49.200-04:00Fortunately, Anne Heche does not get under my skin...Fortunately, Anne Heche does not get under my skin, so I'm lucky in that regard with this show. It's more like I have an <i>absence</i> of reaction to her. <br /><br />After watching this pilot, I do remember consciously thinking to myself, "Well, that sure took its time developing". Not that I was impatient, just an observation. But it was cool because the scenes with Adams and Jane that paid off really paid off well, and I hope future episodes reap rewards. <br /><br />Oh, and thanks for the head's up about no new episode next week. They're really testing our patience, indeed.Oaktown Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811331454878606058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-35315357710845282842009-06-30T23:46:26.142-04:002009-06-30T23:46:26.142-04:00I thought this did what a pilot should do, set the...I thought this did what a pilot should do, set the stage for what's to come. This guy has some personal and financial goals to achieve, he's adrift and he's found some purpose, and he's about to go for a ride...I'm rooting for it...but I'm certainly not sold on it yet<br /><br />I'm certainly hoping that all the characters in all phases of his life has depth and written well. <br /><br />As a side note, it was great to see the guy who played Kenny Banion (sp?) from Seinfeld fame leading the seminar...and in what I'm hoping is a bigger role than what was in the pilot, his assistant basketball coach was played by the lunatic Doug worked for from the RichesMike Fnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-38316042935217976202009-06-29T22:51:15.214-04:002009-06-29T22:51:15.214-04:00Matty: The first season of Big Love was LOADED wit...Matty: The first season of Big Love was LOADED with product placement (particularly Wayne's birthday party episode), so much so that David Spade made fun of it on his short-lived Comedy Central show. Not sure about subsequent seasons, but I don't remember seeing quite as much.JoeEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-9645890295386967382009-06-29T21:54:09.316-04:002009-06-29T21:54:09.316-04:00Slightly off topic, but what's HBO's recor...Slightly off topic, but what's HBO's record w/r/t product placement? I noticed a plug for the Wii in both "Hung" and "True Blood" last night. Not that there's any problem with that, but has it happened before? Does it happen frequently and I'm just too dumb to notice? Or is it just a coincidence?mattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14601738349190186012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-80587387296781953502009-06-29T21:22:16.526-04:002009-06-29T21:22:16.526-04:00Here, to my way of thinking, would be a sign of go...<i>Here, to my way of thinking, would be a sign of good mental and spiritual health: You look for an angle to shut the TV off, rather than to leave it on.</i><br /><br />Anon: While I'm a believer is Sturgeon's Law (“Ninety percent of everything is crud"), how about we do Alan the courtesy of assuming that when he give a show a mixed but generally positive review he's writing in good faith?<br /><br />While there are plenty of people out there who are happy to put their by-lines on reheated press releases, I personally find the kind of knee-jerk curmudgeon who feels the need to constantly assert their aesthetic superiority by lordly condescension towards the subject of their "criticism" (and their readers) equally boring and worthless. While I often disagree with Alan's judgements, thank God he doesn't work at either extreme.Craig Ranapiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08923246310584658857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-38816341134136592762009-06-29T20:09:06.900-04:002009-06-29T20:09:06.900-04:00It's an Arrested Development joke
Ah I see. A...<i>It's an Arrested Development joke</i><br /><br />Ah I see. A bit of Bluth family humor. A bit too subtle for me I'm afraid.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00167030293466638914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-61955757119982210722009-06-29T18:57:17.036-04:002009-06-29T18:57:17.036-04:00It's an Arrested Development joke (assuming yo...It's an Arrested Development joke (assuming you're not being facetious). Only fans will get it.JoeEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89229178872350668602009-06-29T18:04:50.428-04:002009-06-29T18:04:50.428-04:00Also, surely I can't be the first one notice t...<i>Also, surely I can't be the first one notice that Tom Jane's character actually does want his kids back</i> <br /><br />What do you mean? Why is that so remarkable?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00167030293466638914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64652177744737575682009-06-29T17:30:23.972-04:002009-06-29T17:30:23.972-04:00Also, surely I can't be the first one notice t...Also, surely I can't be the first one notice that Tom Jane's character actually does want his kids back (and is temporarily homeless, to boot!).JoeEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-90463878158925567772009-06-29T17:16:54.097-04:002009-06-29T17:16:54.097-04:00Going to stick with it.
Only problem i had, and s...Going to stick with it.<br /><br />Only problem i had, and seems a lot of us did, was Heche. I really don't find her likeable in anything she is in and this character is pretty damn annoying so far. Hopefully they give her more to do and she grows in the role, or they toss the character to the side.So Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-50811261146717634472009-06-29T16:29:34.909-04:002009-06-29T16:29:34.909-04:00Here, to my way of thinking, would be a sign of go...<i>Here, to my way of thinking, would be a sign of good mental and spiritual health: You look for an angle to shut the TV off, rather than to leave it on.</i><br /><br />Well since one doesn't need to look for a reason to stop doing something that they are not enjoying, I honestly have no idea why this approach would be considered a sign of good mental health at all. On the contrary, it would seem to indicate that someone is suffering from an unhealthy compulsion to do things they do not like and must therefore force themselves to do otherwise. <br /><br />In any case, <i>Hung</i> may or may not turn out to be a good show. I enjoyed the first episode but others will have to decide for themselves whether it rises above or falls below one's standard of mediocrity. One of the things that interests me however is that it is the first show that I have seen in a long time that actually attempts to grapple with middle class financial anxiety in a semi-serious way. <i>Weeds</i> might count but it is really more absurdist and farcical and Nancy Botwin's biggest problems are not really about money but greed. <br /><br />I can actually empathize with the desperation and humiliation that Thomas Jane's character feels has forced him into a corner. I hope they really explore those corners going forward because I think its an important American story and one that is elided from most of our cultural narratives where it seems that everyone, aside from inner city criminals, always has plenty of financial freedom to do almost anything they want.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00167030293466638914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23911128746017860452009-06-29T15:46:21.656-04:002009-06-29T15:46:21.656-04:00One might also wonder if there are better ways to ...One might also wonder if there are better ways to fill up the time before death than to go to a TV blog and insult the author and his readers. Just sayin...<br /><br />A friend recorded this for me, I hope it proves worthwhileHatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01184680741873873714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-50434533189074939982009-06-29T13:49:16.676-04:002009-06-29T13:49:16.676-04:00I grew up in Windsor and so seeing Tiger Stadium t...I grew up in Windsor and so seeing Tiger Stadium torn down was poignant for me and helped set the tone of the show. I liked the pilot and Thomas Jane certainly has the charisma to carry this show. I found Heche irritating as well, but her character is probably part of the reason. I don't care if we don't see much of her in the future.<br /><br />I was reminded of Weeds while watching, or at least the first few seasons, where it's basically a gender reversal of a divorced parent who has to go to extreme means to eek out a living. <br /><br />I don't know if the series will be filmed in the Detroit area or if it's only set up shots, but I don't mind programs that show the area is more than just abandoned crackhouses.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317568565085893849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-49536412587369547582009-06-29T13:37:45.778-04:002009-06-29T13:37:45.778-04:00Being from Detroit, I pretty much fell in love wit...Being from Detroit, I pretty much fell in love with this show the moment they showed Lafayette Coney Island in the opening credit sequence. I also loved Ray describing Detroit as "the headwaters of a river of failure". So sad, but so true.Jojonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-39936570398662894972009-06-29T13:31:42.590-04:002009-06-29T13:31:42.590-04:00I always come here to read Alan's review and t...I always come here to read Alan's review and the comments after a show has premiered. I am always a bit shocked by the tone, which to me seems to be, "I'm doing everything I can to find an angle to like what is clearly mediocre at best. After all, what else is there to do tonight but watch television?" Is life's goal to fill out the time until we die, in half hour to an hour increments of distraction? Here, to my way of thinking, would be a sign of good mental and spiritual health: You look for an angle to shut the TV off, rather than to leave it on. For example, your life is not enriched by spending a half hour finding out if Vince is able to help Turtle get those designer sneakers he wants. I think Alan himself sets this tone. And it makes sense for him. He's a critic, paid to watch television. He might as well try to make the best of it. Still, there are loftier approaches to critical analysis than being an advocate for the mindless consumption of worthless television at the expense of everything else in your life. As a matter of fact, there may be no approach a critic could take that is lower. And as Alan's writing on The Sopranos proved, he's quite capable of better. But, I guess he's found an angle to justify being another critic who serves the television industry (which is kind of the opposite of being a critic, when you think about it). That angle he's found may very well be as simple as, "I likes feeding my family." What I'm wondering is, what's everybody else's excuse? Is it really, "I treasure my time spent watching 'Untied States of Tara', "Entourage' and "Parks and Recreation" so much, everything else in the world will just have to wait"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19850726315898605492009-06-29T12:13:20.258-04:002009-06-29T12:13:20.258-04:00Some kids will frequently be the "opposites&q...Some kids will frequently be the "opposites" of their parents, so I don't have a problem with the twins not being jock and beauty queen MiniMes. Heche looked like a drowned cat at that party, so I wasn't seeing the beauty queen in her anyway :-)<br /><br />I'm surprised Ray didn't like having relations with a woman who constantly praised the size of his manhoond and had multiple orgasms because of it. I would think most men would get off (ha) on the ego trip? For a jock, he's not very conceited :-)<br /><br />Oh, and I liked it enough to tune in again. Thomas Jane has a lot of goodwill from me based on "The Mist" and the five seconds I got to talk to him at a DVD signing for said film (and also for the way he handled the paparazzi at that signing, which was just after he'd been popped for DUI).deznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-12853811798715685402009-06-29T11:20:35.885-04:002009-06-29T11:20:35.885-04:00I felt the pilot was entertaining because of Thoma...I felt the pilot was entertaining because of Thomas Jane and Jane Adams. I,too, hope Adams has found a role to sink her teeth and make a mark. I've always felt both had talent but it was never showcased with few exceptions. The kids were self-absorbed enough to be believable. However, I will agree with some that say their appearance does not fit with a former jock and beauty queen. <br />Heche is annoying. I hope she is not utilized to the tenth degree. Kristen Bauer was originally scripted to play that role and I would have liked to have seen what she could have done instead of Heche. <br />Isn't the American dream falling down around all of us? I enjoyed the Gatsby reference that a fellow poster pointed out, good catch!JanieJonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64091675172518953652009-06-29T11:06:55.651-04:002009-06-29T11:06:55.651-04:00The kids are adopted, right? I just couldn't ...The kids are adopted, right? I just couldn't buy them as being the kids of either Jane or Heche.<br /><br />Ray used the Finder-Spyder search engine, so as a fan of TV crossovers alone, that kept me hooked. (Wikipedia has a list of shows linked by it.) But Thomas Jane and Jane Adams look like they'll make it worthwhile to check back in again.Toby O'Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999037844031101965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-80916504203010093272009-06-29T10:55:24.994-04:002009-06-29T10:55:24.994-04:00Unavoidable, really.Unavoidable, really.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5850856856790267782009-06-29T10:47:54.714-04:002009-06-29T10:47:54.714-04:00Alan said:
"Which makes premiering it tonigh...<i><br /><br />Alan said:<br /><br />"Which makes premiering it tonight odd, other than that the <b> extra length </b> would mean "Entourage" might need to be pushed back another week."<br /><br /></i><br /><br />So intended double entendre or unintended?groovekillernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-7445080672335525022009-06-29T10:27:24.769-04:002009-06-29T10:27:24.769-04:00@jasctt: If your time is so precious what are you ...@jasctt: If your time is so precious what are you doing posting in the comments section of a show you don't want to waste time watching?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67187963407118960962009-06-29T03:38:15.859-04:002009-06-29T03:38:15.859-04:00still not wasting my precious time on this dreck b...still not wasting my precious time on this dreck but I do love me some Jane Adams and it's tempting to tune in for her and, BTW, Fred Garvin is a STUD!!!JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02756759334031896854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-48652253336154617992009-06-29T02:51:31.356-04:002009-06-29T02:51:31.356-04:00As is usually the case, I did not like Anne Heche...As is usually the case, I did not like Anne Heche, but I thought the kids were fine. That is to say, they struck me as pretty typical teenagers in the sense that they were far more focused on their own needs than with whatever happens to be going on with their parents. I thought they still managed to be pretty likable despite that. <br /><br />I did think it was an interesting choice to make them twins and both significantly heavier set than their parents. They certainly aren't the obvious choice to play the children of a former beauty queen and a former athlete. <br /><br />word verification choice: "fatess"Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00167030293466638914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-20046789104039482122009-06-29T01:52:22.046-04:002009-06-29T01:52:22.046-04:00I enjoyed the show. It wasn't that funny, but...I enjoyed the show. It wasn't that funny, but I can see this being more of an interesting half-drama/half-comedy type of show. Ray and Tanya are definitely characters I will enjoy watching.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10953767376447811803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-27822142810272087222009-06-29T00:35:27.343-04:002009-06-29T00:35:27.343-04:00My husband was not very interested in seeing this ...My husband was not very interested in seeing this show, but at the end, he said, that was pretty funny, I'd keep watching.<br /><br />I loved Thomas Jane in 61*, and almost didn't even recognize him here as the same guy. Great job!<br /><br />I also hope Anne Heche is used very minimally -- she is so annoying.Sonianoreply@blogger.com