tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post2252748769338436768..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Fox upfront, take oneAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-71335450613462753732008-05-16T03:31:00.000-04:002008-05-16T03:31:00.000-04:00I notice that both Sarah Connor & Prison Break dis...I notice that both Sarah Connor & Prison Break disappear from the schedule at midseason. Does that mean that they're both working with smaller orders? For some reason, I thought I remembered reading somewhere that Prison Break had 23 episode order this season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-25556045274231098652008-05-16T01:57:00.000-04:002008-05-16T01:57:00.000-04:00This is interesting. I don't fully get it, though....<A HREF="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibcf6d45fc7a036df6bfa2e8d6fa199d3" REL="nofollow">This</A> is interesting. I don't fully get it, though. Will Dollhouse episodes be 55 minutes long?dark tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461345493748899275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-81152246527796161312008-05-16T00:08:00.000-04:002008-05-16T00:08:00.000-04:00That promo pic for Dollhouse looks awful.Why?The g...<EM>That promo pic for Dollhouse looks awful.</EM><BR/><BR/>Why?<BR/><BR/>The grouping really interests me. This might be the first promo pic I've seen that shows obvious cliques.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-86502172198317923692008-05-15T21:36:00.000-04:002008-05-15T21:36:00.000-04:00Totally agree with Alan's comments about the worth...Totally agree with Alan's comments about the worthless Randy Jackson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-43855001329928530052008-05-15T19:38:00.000-04:002008-05-15T19:38:00.000-04:00why is no one talking about Mitch Hurwitz's Sit Do...why is no one talking about Mitch Hurwitz's Sit Down, Shut Up? that's the show i'm most excited for. Plus the cast is like a mini AD reunion with Bateman, Arnett, and Winkler. I can't wait to see it.Ben Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07409407957407196338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33621747209254135402008-05-15T19:36:00.000-04:002008-05-15T19:36:00.000-04:00I want Journeyman back! Oh wait, that was nbc tha...I want Journeyman back! Oh wait, that was nbc that canceled a show I like, not fox.Kenrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06346565881555687494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-47167264044237311142008-05-15T19:26:00.000-04:002008-05-15T19:26:00.000-04:00And post time-travel episode, I think Paula has be...And post time-travel episode, I think Paula has been more coherent than Randy giving honest comments that usually make sense. She's not perfect, but then Simon can get in a rut too.<BR/><BR/>I think Randy's been talking too much to YDA's dad and thus is afraid to give real criticism.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317568565085893849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72595888462330201752008-05-15T18:58:00.000-04:002008-05-15T18:58:00.000-04:00alap, Deadline Hollywood Daily reported Fox passed...alap, Deadline Hollywood Daily reported Fox passed on The Oaks.Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10538651542043518746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-397682805734662732008-05-15T18:47:00.000-04:002008-05-15T18:47:00.000-04:00any word on what happened to "the oaks," that shaw...any word on what happened to "the oaks," that shawn ryan show about a haunted house that actually sounded pretty cool? i think the pilot was already produced, wasn't it?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06664200920287220667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42473347388190657792008-05-15T18:04:00.000-04:002008-05-15T18:04:00.000-04:00Not that I really love FOX or anything, but I thin...Not that I really love FOX or anything, but I think people are harder on the network execs than they really have to be. I mean, they did give <I>Arrested Development</I> three seasons despite the show never getting good ratings. I think that was a pretty worthy effort on their part. And, as far as working with Joss goes, it's a whole different bunch of people at FOX now from when <I>Firefly</I> was on the air. And <I>Firefly</I> had so much behind-the-scenes drama between Joss and the network, it was doomed before it ever aired a single episode. I haven't heard anything about that kind of stuff happening with <I>Dollhouse</I>. So I'm at least cautiously optimistic.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15758923671028899249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-17377512051722241932008-05-15T17:03:00.000-04:002008-05-15T17:03:00.000-04:00Jeff, technically Eliza brought Whedon to FOX sinc...Jeff, technically Eliza brought Whedon to FOX since she has a deal over there. They came up with the concept of the show together, so he really had no choice.<BR/><BR/>But again, Kevin Reilly. The man who gave even 'Studio 60' the chance to air a complete season.dark tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461345493748899275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-30315279568289300732008-05-15T16:07:00.000-04:002008-05-15T16:07:00.000-04:00"Dollhouse" is heavily-serialized and more hard-co...<I>"Dollhouse" is heavily-serialized and more hard-core science fiction. <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Oh goody. 'Cuz the last time Joss put a hard-core science fiction serial on Fox, it worked out so very, very well.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, what is the guy thinking? I love his stuff, but what could possibly posses him to get in bed with Fox again? And with a Sci-Fi show, no less.Jeff Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14777614840039507252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-35786613839572505572008-05-15T16:00:00.000-04:002008-05-15T16:00:00.000-04:00Alan, you're dissing Randy Jackson when Paula Abdu...<I>Alan, you're dissing Randy Jackson when Paula Abdul is sitting right next to him?</I><BR/><BR/>Absolutely. <BR/><BR/>Paula has a role to play on that show -- the one who's all sunshine and rainbows and never thinks a contestant ever does anything bad -- and she plays it, often in unintentionally hilarious fashion. (I was being serious the other day when I said her time-traveling critique of Jason Castro was one of the season's few highlights.) Randy's apparent role is as the music industry veteran who tries to offer comments that can be more critical than anything Paula says, but in a more constructive fashion than anything Paula says. But he doesn't do that. He just throws out one of his half-dozen catchphrases in random order, and lately he hasn't even been commenting on the actual performances. Little Archie will be done singing and all Randy will say is, "I don't care, if you can sing, you can sing, dawg!" <BR/><BR/>I have more contempt for Randy than almost anyone else on television. Paula's either slow-witted or crazy, but Randy's just a lazy hack who was lucky enough to be available when Fox was casting the first season of a show no one had any idea would be this huge.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72675628071341316882008-05-15T15:55:00.000-04:002008-05-15T15:55:00.000-04:00Alan, you're dissing Randy Jackson when Paula Abdu...Alan, you're dissing Randy Jackson when Paula Abdul is sitting right next to him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54536427039495240622008-05-15T15:31:00.000-04:002008-05-15T15:31:00.000-04:00especially since the other half hour is occupied b...<I>especially since the other half hour is occupied by "Comedy TBA!"</I><BR/><BR/> Wait, <I>According to Jim</I> is moving to Fox?<BR/><BR/>AnonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-57424397221815940362008-05-15T15:30:00.000-04:002008-05-15T15:30:00.000-04:00And anyone who thinks Idol results will stick to a...<I>And anyone who thinks Idol results will stick to a half hour is deluding themselves, especially since the other half hour is occupied by "Comedy TBA!"</I><BR/><BR/>Liguori waffled on the half-hour thing, implying that it would likely expand and contract depending on the Very Special Musical Guests who would be available in a given week, but he also seemed to recognize that the show needs some fixing, and tightening up the results show is an obvious place to start. <BR/><BR/>Even more obvious: Firing Randy Jackson and replacing him with someone more insightful about music and performance. (Basically, any other human on the planet.)Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45596347811565790652008-05-15T15:20:00.000-04:002008-05-15T15:20:00.000-04:00FWIW, Fox is already heavily promoting "Fringe," w...FWIW, Fox is already heavily promoting "Fringe," with full back page of the NYT arts section this morning and handing out free NY Posts wrapped in Fringe ads in midtown. Only other fall show I've seen any promotion for was a 15 second no cast "image" promo for "90210" during Reaper on Tuesday.<BR/><BR/>And anyone who thinks Idol results will stick to a half hour is deluding themselves, especially since the other half hour is occupied by "Comedy TBA!"Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00295270766215749309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4003334967308153352008-05-15T14:32:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:32:00.000-04:00(I made it sound as if Kevin Reilly championed Dol...(I made it sound as if Kevin Reilly championed Dollhouse while at NBC.)dark tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461345493748899275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77440508166251677832008-05-15T14:30:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:30:00.000-04:00First of all, Alan, your Jessica Alba/Eliza Dushku...First of all, Alan, your Jessica Alba/Eliza Dushku quote was pure sig line-worthy brilliance.<BR/><BR/>Second, I agree that FOX will bet everything on Fringe and I don't blame them. Simpler show, monster producer, easier sell. But I presume the expectations will be shaped according to that; they couldn't possibly expect Dollhouse to bring in Fringe's numbers. After all, the early hype for Dollhouse's pilot script is shockingly good, and I really have faith in Kevin Reilly that he'll champion the show the way he did when he was at NBC.dark tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461345493748899275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-27975443160749102712008-05-15T14:29:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:29:00.000-04:00even for the worst FOX series (like New Amsterdam ...<I>even for the worst FOX series (like New Amsterdam this year)</I><BR/><BR/>Aww, I really liked New Amsterdam (though admittedly more as a premise than the actual show)...Bobmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01604050338240551711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-35353708574826133592008-05-15T14:23:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:23:00.000-04:00I don't have a dog in the Abrams vs. Whedon fan fi...I don't have a dog in the Abrams vs. Whedon fan fight, but keep this in mind: Fringe, while it has sci-fi elements, takes the "X-Files" template of doing mostly standalone episodes and taking place in something resembling the real world, while "Dollhouse" is heavily-serialized and more hard-core science fiction. <BR/><BR/>The former is a <B>much</B> easier sell. Also, it'll be ready to air in the fall, while "Dollhouse" won't.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-76317355174146919602008-05-15T14:22:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:22:00.000-04:00That promo picture was airbrushed to all hell, whi...<I>That promo picture was airbrushed to all hell, which is why I don't like it, but I must say Tahmoh looks really good in that suit.</I><BR/><BR/>Amen! I'll miss Tanktop!Tahmoh, though. Hopefully they'll find excuses to have him shed his sleeves every once in awhile.<BR/><BR/>I'll probably check out both Fringe (Pacey Whitter!) and Dollhouse, but I am not sure how many more shows I can add to my schedule. And thank goodness my DVR is so smart -- otherwise I'd miss every episode of Bones because they move it all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88773230927136076422008-05-15T14:19:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:19:00.000-04:00To Adam, Fox's Secret Millionaire could be horribl...To Adam, Fox's Secret Millionaire could be horrible, but the British show it is based on (I think the format could have been done somewhere else), is actually genuinely warm, informative and not at all exploitative. <BR/><BR/>A lot of it self-made millionaires, who go back home and see suffering and the hard and thankless work that many people undertake. <BR/><BR/>Of course that format can be ruined if you choose socialite trust fund kids and attempt to make it a horrible culture clash show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42146669079864591132008-05-15T14:13:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:13:00.000-04:00Having 24 after Dollhouse doesn't help the latter ...Having 24 <I>after</I> Dollhouse doesn't help the latter in any way; except for a few 24 fans who might watch the last five minutes of the show before.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, Fringe gets the two most highly rated FOX shows as lead-in. After AI, that means automatically above 10 million viewers even for the worst FOX series (like New Amsterdam this year), while Dollhouse has to start the evening, a difficult task for a new show on a competitive night.<BR/><BR/>There is no question FOX is doing all it can to make a hit out of Fringe, at the expense of other series.Mrglasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11904825729610838862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-21700714362842860032008-05-15T13:54:00.000-04:002008-05-15T13:54:00.000-04:00"As a fan of Whedon, Dollhouse looks very promisin..."As a fan of Whedon, Dollhouse looks very promising indeed, sadly it doesn't seem to get nearly as much support as the (soon) overrated Fringe. 8pm, no lead-in."<BR/><BR/>What are you talking about? Fox is putting it as the lead-in to 24, and so far I've heard no one talking about Fringe, while the Whedonites are buzzing about Dollhouse as if it's the second coming. Ironically, the best thing that ever happened to Whedon is that he never became wildly popular with the mainstream. His relative obscurity keeps his cult-genius myth alive and well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com