tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post2904345572904669048..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Sepinwall on TV: 'Heroes' season 3 reviewAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-21521047476187713782008-09-28T00:31:00.000-04:002008-09-28T00:31:00.000-04:00I was wondering what ever happen to the Haitian. ...I was wondering what ever happen to the Haitian. Is he expected to come back to the show? I thought he would have been useful against the new villians and Sylar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-10883137922307684432008-09-24T09:30:00.000-04:002008-09-24T09:30:00.000-04:00I still watch this show, I do find it entertaining...I still watch this show, I do find it entertaining, but the plots are poorly done. The first half of season 1 was very good! People had called it the 'lost' killer because it revealed secrets, but it revealed too many! You really need a deeper mystery to keep people guessing, and Heroes threw that out back in season 1. <BR/>This show doesn't know where it's going, I'm convinced that they didn't know who shot Nathan last season. <BR/><BR/>My problems with the plots are multiple. First..<BR/><BR/>SPOILER WARNING!<BR/><BR/>OK.. Now that we know Claire can't die.. does that mean that the plot of season one meant nothing? OK.. so keeping the power from Syler was a good thing.. but if she can't die.. I feel like "save the cheerleader, save the world" is all out the window.<BR/><BR/>The time travel bit is getting old.. we had future hiro in season 1, now we have future Peter... and why on earth would he come back and shoot Nathan! Why not come back a day earlier and just tell him.. as Hiro did to Peter in season 1. <BR/><BR/>But it gets worst.. Carlton Cuse(of Lost fame.. or maybe it was Damon) once used the Hiro/peter encounter of how NOT to do time travel. If hiro came back to warn Peter about the cheerleader, and the cheerleader was saved, Hiro could never have come back. Now we have future peter, who has changed the future. Even so, why hang around. <BR/><BR/>The mohinder thing contradicts the entire premise of the show. If this serum has something to do with adrenalin, how does THAT modify your DNA! It may be how it WORKS, but it’s the DNA right? But wasn’t this about Evolution.. now there is a serum that will create powers in anyone? What about Syler getting his powers by examining the brain to see how it works.<BR/><BR/>The new Villians that escaped from their cells, and their behaviors remind me of Superman II. And there are starting to be so many family connections that it’s getting worse than Star Wars… OK.. so now Syler is Peter and Nathans brother and Claires uncle? Are you kidding? God, I hope so!<BR/><BR/>Oh, and what happned to that poor irish girl that Peter left in an alternate future filled with disease last year. When they changed the future, did she disappear? And I think that’s my big problem with the show. Too many dropped plot lines, and way too much time travel… it’s about seeing the future and changing it before it happens. That’s weak. <BR/><BR/>But it looks like they’ll be a little more focused this season, I think they know they opened too many characters and story arcs last Season. That’s a good sign.<BR/><BR/>Despite all this, I found it entertaining, but I’m teetering on not watching the show. Last season, I tivoed through a lot of it. My wife stopped watching a few episodes in. I’m teetering on not watching, but as long as my friends keep watching… I’m tempted to keep up. Also, I need something new to entertain me until Lost gets here in January. I suppose I could find this elsewhere. But I do think it’s fixable, but the bad plot lines have already been set this season… but I’ll give it a few more.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00781568428241806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-20129974773255618932008-09-24T04:03:00.000-04:002008-09-24T04:03:00.000-04:00WOO HATE MORE WOOOOWOO HATE MORE WOOOOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-32941136562464626202008-09-23T08:00:00.000-04:002008-09-23T08:00:00.000-04:00Episode review's up. Please take discussion there....Episode review's up. Please take discussion there.Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-13919318122394183572008-09-23T07:42:00.000-04:002008-09-23T07:42:00.000-04:00Guys, I'm working on the actual spoiler review now...Guys, I'm working on the actual spoiler review now. Can we hold off on additional comments until then?Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-41310363267335168222008-09-23T06:09:00.000-04:002008-09-23T06:09:00.000-04:00Oh no he di'int... Oh yes he did! Sylar quoted Da...Oh no he di'int... Oh yes he did! Sylar quoted Dan Fogelberg. And so ponderously that I'm not sure I even would have recognized the lyric if I hadn't seen it here first. And without the slightest trace of irony, as far as I could tell. And Sylar never struck me as somebody who was interested in deep questions anyway: I like the idea of him introduced at the end of the first season, a kind of Norman Bates, consumed by a need to live up to his mother's expectations by becoming the most special person ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-41377415497585921782008-09-23T04:04:00.000-04:002008-09-23T04:04:00.000-04:00TIMELINE.In a show where a ridiculously large numb...TIMELINE.<BR/><BR/>In a show where a ridiculously large number of people can teleport, fly, travel at the speed of light, time travel, and otherwise move themselves from place to place without regard for the laws of physics, the narrative timeline is very important because it keeps us anchored to something.<BR/><BR/>How did Sylar get from NY to CA? He can't bend time & space yet. How is it that Mohinder and Maya seem to have moved several weeks into the future since the end of last season (long enough to set up housekeeping, to (thankfully) dump Molly, and for Maya to significantly reduce her accent) while everyone else is somewhere between a couple of hours and a day or so. When is Parkman? He seems to have been in the desert for longer than all of the rest of the story took place.<BR/><BR/>And now, I'm betting that the world's most stupid, most gullible (but exceptionally good looking) children have been conceived.<BR/><BR/>This needed to be a 12-episode mini-series. They don't know what they're doing with series drama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-32779808612151202432008-09-23T02:52:00.000-04:002008-09-23T02:52:00.000-04:00In the beginning I thought they were simply rippin...In the beginning I thought they were simply ripping off J. Michael Straczynski's RISING STARS. You know, but with less intelligence.<BR/><BR/>Which was sneaky but hey, at least they weren't silly enough to copy the biggest comic in the world. Oh wait, then they started... um... doing an homage to the Claremont/Byrne classic storylines in The X-men. Those being only widely considered the greatest mainstream superhero comics ever produced. And once again they did it with less intelligence, originality and artistry. It was hard to feel bad for them as ratings went to pieces.<BR/><BR/>And now (much like the X-men in the lowpoints of the 90s) they're stuck in their own time-traveling, alternative futures mess and it will make it almost impossible for new viewers to jump on board. <BR/><BR/>They've copied the mainstream comic world too closely and now it's biting them in the tush. Well done!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-49119325062082729202008-09-23T02:15:00.000-04:002008-09-23T02:15:00.000-04:00I think Knox's power is to be a West Baltimore dru...I think Knox's power is to be a West Baltimore druglord...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-62581758057783746822008-09-23T01:33:00.000-04:002008-09-23T01:33:00.000-04:00I have the same question as filmcricket... where t...I have the same question as filmcricket... where the hell was Andre Royo? I went through the episode a second time on fast forward and still didn't see him. What gives? He was definitely in the credits.<BR/><BR/>I really hope they give us some chances to see Francis Capra and Kristin Bell on screen together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67211366231056639602008-09-23T01:28:00.001-04:002008-09-23T01:28:00.001-04:00I wish this show were good...really. If Peter Petr...I wish this show were good...really. If Peter Petrelli would have not come back from the future it would have been a decent show watching the "heroes" deal with a case of societal paranoia. NOt sure if I can watch another episode, maybe if I were guaranteed not to be forced to watch Suresh...I'm sure he'll die and miraculously come back to life like all of characters in this series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73733174268872220602008-09-23T01:28:00.000-04:002008-09-23T01:28:00.000-04:00Was that... Marlo?Was that... Marlo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72921103870364738022008-09-23T00:48:00.000-04:002008-09-23T00:48:00.000-04:00Or stealing from Chris Claremont.Or stealing from Chris Claremont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-47233952276456858262008-09-22T23:56:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:56:00.000-04:00What's really amazing is the fact that even though...What's really amazing is the fact that even though there are no less than 157 different subplots in play involving twice as many characters, the writers still aren't done introducing new characters for the season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-83508982684075251162008-09-22T23:43:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:43:00.000-04:00Also: Why can't Monica remember what happened in t...Also: Why can't Monica remember what happened in the damn bank? I really wanna know already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74178232608182365342008-09-22T23:39:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:39:00.000-04:00"The great thing about bad writing is that you can..."The great thing about bad writing is that you can have characters do absolutely anything you want them to do, at any time, for absolutely no reason, with absolutely no regard for what they have done previously."<BR/><BR/>Thank you. You've summed up everything that's wrong with Heroes, and has been since the beginning. In Season 1 the show was frequently praised for its unpredictable plot twists, but unpredictability is not, in and of itself, a virtue -- the best unpredictable plot twists are the ones that seem inevitable once they've happened. <BR/><BR/>Mohinder and Maya can go away now.<BR/><BR/>So can geek-pandering stunt casting. Eccleston and Takei were cool. But it's just out of hand at this point -- any actor who's ever been in a show with a superhero or a spaceship seems to have a guaranteed guest shot at this point. The density of all these guest turns makes them less cool than they should be.<BR/><BR/>(I was going to say something like, what's next, Adam West as the president? But that would, in fact, be pretty cool.)Matter-Eater Ladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07582100232490047227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-43446553581275697482008-09-22T23:35:00.001-04:002008-09-22T23:35:00.001-04:00For every "that's cool!" moment there was a moment...For every "that's cool!" moment there was a moment that just made me go, "what?" Or "Oh, for f---'s sake!" <BR/><BR/>Hiro's vision was almost the same thing he saw in season one! ARRRG! <BR/><BR/>Is that how they're going to deal with Elle? Just kick her off to the side? Bell's performance may have been goofy as hell, but it gave S2 what little juice it had. <BR/><BR/>Parkman's African Odyssey? Are they serious? <BR/><BR/>The best part was Christine Rose as Angela Petrelli, yet another supporting character who's forced herself into the center of the narrative by dint of being more interesting than the leads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73997143473565260652008-09-22T23:35:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:35:00.000-04:00Where the hell was Andre Royo? And David Anders, f...Where the hell <I>was</I> Andre Royo? And David Anders, for that matter (aside from the flashbacks)?<BR/><BR/>No one has to answer this if the answers would be spoilerish - I just don't remember seeing them. <BR/><BR/>There were a few bright spots, particularly in the second hour, which I won't mention here at Alan's request. But generally, this was pretty meh.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and during that "countdown to the premiere" thing: is it Masi Oka's genius-level IQ that allows him to look like he's not reading a prompter, or is it said IQ that allows him to memorize his lines, unlike the rest of his costars?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85317248587814150772008-09-22T23:22:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:22:00.000-04:00The great thing about bad writing is that you can ...The great thing about bad writing is that you can have characters do absolutely anything you want them to do, at any time, for absolutely no reason, with absolutely no regard for what they have done previously. Hence you have Hiro blatantly ignoring his father's very, very simple dying wishes and HRG not immediately killing Sylar, the guy who ripped his daughter's skullcap off.<BR/><BR/>The supervillain plot looks like it might have been a lot of fun, but as usual the writers have never met a subplot they didn't like, so it'll get bogged down with yet another time travel rehash, a political subplot that makes crib death look exciting, and even more convoluted Petrelli family drama. I'm done. Glad Andre Royo and Jamie Hector are getting good TV work, though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-31110611786570191022008-09-22T23:18:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:18:00.000-04:00as soon as mohinder and ando get powers...cancel t...as soon as mohinder and ando get powers...cancel the show. some bums are meant to stay bumsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-52781161072505888822008-09-22T23:04:00.000-04:002008-09-22T23:04:00.000-04:00Meh.Count me in on the want to like it more than I...Meh.<BR/><BR/>Count me in on the want to like it more than I do category.<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking the TWOP recaplet will be more than enough Heroes for me.<BR/><BR/>I get the feeling this is produced by people who want in on the superhero/sci-fi money train but aren't fans of the genre and just don't get it.<BR/><BR/>I did like Larter's character more in this incarnation.Christyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623422545436294378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-66463103900226728342008-09-22T22:25:00.000-04:002008-09-22T22:25:00.000-04:003/4 of the way through this premiere, I have to sa...3/4 of the way through this premiere, I have to say.... I think Heroes has lost me for good this time. Blech.Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024186205791001584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77343577522685237322008-09-22T19:08:00.000-04:002008-09-22T19:08:00.000-04:00And, of course, she's no longer on the show anymor...<I>And, of course, she's no longer on the show anymore.</I><BR/><BR/>Yet we're stuck with Maya? BAH. Maybe I'm not so bummed after all that I have to work tonight and have to wait until tomorrow night to watch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-57049942294661793872008-09-22T18:24:00.000-04:002008-09-22T18:24:00.000-04:00I too am creeped out by the Claire Peter interacti...I too am creeped out by the Claire Peter interactions, mostly because real life has tainted my view of those two. It doesn't help that Peter Petrelli is self-important as hell and could really be killed off and I wouldn't miss him. Claire is more interesting only because HRG is her dad, but Hayden Panetierre's acting abilities aren't that fantastic otherwise. <BR/><BR/>Future Hiro was awesome, Dark haired Claire looks like a retread.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317568565085893849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-10564049334196775962008-09-22T14:37:00.000-04:002008-09-22T14:37:00.000-04:00The problem with Heros is that except for rare ins...The problem with Heros is that except for rare instances, it's too busy trying to convince you that it's engaging and clever than merely trying to be intelligent and engaging. It doesn't have a sense of humor about itself and doesn't realize that its writers often stray far on the wrong side of the line between dramatic and cheesy. <BR/><BR/>Yet for a show that is so flawed, it's not so bad that it can't be saved. I want to like it. The premise is appealing. Hiro and HRG are good characters. George Takei and Malcolm McDowell have had good turns as guest stars. Which, I guess is why it is so frustrating that it fails more than it succeeds and that the showrunners haven't show that they understand what makes the show work well. Elsewhere in the sci-fi/fantasy serialized genre, Lost and BSG both suffered from aimless mediocrity, but only after brilliance. And the creative teams behind both of those shows understood why things weren't clicking and remedied those problems. I hope that Kring et al did take the long break to figure out what makes their show work and run with it. If not, why bother continuing to watch?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com