tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post4468839521881902981..comments2024-03-18T13:50:45.615-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Mad Men redux: Jews cruiseAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-43960585382633495132008-12-26T09:10:00.000-05:002008-12-26T09:10:00.000-05:00ANVICILLUS??? Now that is a 75 cent word. Love you...ANVICILLUS??? Now that is a 75 cent word. <BR/><BR/>Love your analysis of joan jumping in between Freddy and Peggy. She reminds me very much of a book from the 60s, the Girls in the Office, a book that was themetically similar to the movie mentioned in this episode, The Best of Everything. Joan is a perfect Best of Everything girl, a Helen Gurley Brown girl, and her heyday is about to come to a screeching halt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88533844098425516182008-07-28T10:05:00.000-04:002008-07-28T10:05:00.000-04:00I'm in New Zealand where the Season 1 Episode 6 ju...I'm in New Zealand where the Season 1 Episode 6 just screened... I was very intrigued by Draper's remark that all men like Joan Crawford... That seemed wrong to me... she's too scary/dragon lady-ish for straight men I think (whereas I could imagine Don saying truly and also innformatively to his wife that all men love Barbara Sttanwyck say.). They just tolerated her, whereas women did like her a lot, i.e., as a great women scorned/wronged etc.. Anyhow, your post listed the line as an 'anvil'. Are you saying that you also found the line to be one of the show's rare bum notes? Or do you think that the line's fine and exists purely for the setup about Salvatore's response next?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-44990112898596975992008-03-17T11:08:00.000-04:002008-03-17T11:08:00.000-04:00I'm a few shows behind, so late in commenting, but...I'm a few shows behind, so late in commenting, but I want to sincerely thank you for re-posting these, since I"m enjoying Mad Men a lot. <BR/><BR/>In answer to your question about Adam, I think it's probably a biblical reference to good/bad brothers in the bible like Adam's sons Cain and Abel (both those names would have been TOO anvil-ish) and Jacob and Esau. Don/Dick is the older brother of the earlier (dead? divorced?) lesser-regarded wife, and will probably be marginalized as such.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-3743918841964090242008-03-14T13:38:00.000-04:002008-03-14T13:38:00.000-04:00Paul Lynde... many, many people didn't get that he...Paul Lynde... many, many people didn't get that he was gay back then. It just wasn't universally absorbed. Sure, <I>gays</I> got it, and some non-gays as well, but not everyone. <BR/><BR/>When I was little, and I mean, even into my teens, I didn't understand that Paul Lynde and Charles Nelson Reilly and some of the other really flaming queens of the day (I was born in '65) were homosexuals. I did not understand the concept. Unfathomable now!<BR/><BR/>(But my mom did. 'fagalas', she'd say.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-3776419324225303792008-02-28T09:17:00.000-05:002008-02-28T09:17:00.000-05:00Given how invisible gay men were back in these pre...Given how invisible gay men were back in these pre-Stonewall days, I can imagine that Sal's flamboyant side could be overlooked. I mean, nobody picked up on George Michael and his shortpants, and that was in the much more recent past.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and personally, I laughed out load at the Joan Crawford line. I guess I'm a sucker for a well dropped anvil.<BR/><BR/>And Alan, thanks for the link to the old post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54778005948234284382008-02-26T16:38:00.000-05:002008-02-26T16:38:00.000-05:00I just can't believe nobody doesn't get it.I can't...<I>I just can't believe nobody doesn't get it.</I><BR/>I can't believe it either, but I don't know if that's because of my modern sensibilities and because the character just comes across as so stereotypically gay. I keep thinking of that film Far From Heaven, in which Dennis Quaid played a gay man during those times, but he did not have those "obvious" gay characteristics, and I am not sure whether we are supposed to find Sal amusing, sympathetic, strange, or what. Color me confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-22910569857935430862008-02-26T15:30:00.000-05:002008-02-26T15:30:00.000-05:00p.s. Word on that scene behind the glass where Sa...p.s. Word on that scene behind the glass where Sal was critiquing the women's style. So hilarious. Today, anyone would catch on to his orientation. Back then, not so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-91516686231005488212008-02-26T15:28:00.000-05:002008-02-26T15:28:00.000-05:00This was my favorite episode of Mad Men (with the ...This was my favorite episode of Mad Men (with the possible exception of Nixon v Kennedy), in part because I loved the way the episode played out with the song over those final scenes. I heard an interview with Weiner talking about the theme of exile. I really like the way they explored each of the main women while simultaneously advancing the plot. <BR/><BR/>Did anyone else notice that Rachel's explanation of "Utopos" (sp) w/the two different pronunciations echoed Roger's mispronunciation of Israeli client, Yurin's name? I thought it was a nice aural touch and another example of the sterling (pun intended) minds at work on this show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-99808685730832322008-02-26T11:03:00.000-05:002008-02-26T11:03:00.000-05:00I had chills during the playing of "By the Waters ...I had chills during the playing of "By the Waters of Babylon". Also a nice tie-in to Rachel's Judaism and the feelings of Rachel, the head secretary, and Don that they're somehow in exile or not quite fitting in.Loweeelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10616200883585572852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64023225369202303692008-02-26T10:43:00.000-05:002008-02-26T10:43:00.000-05:00Sorry for the lateness of this one. In the usual c...Sorry for the lateness of this one. In the usual chaos that comes with returning from vacation, I forgot to post this yesterday. <BR/><BR/>To make up for it, since somebody asked if they could look at the original post to see what the commenters had to say back in the summer, <A HREF="http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2007/08/mad-men-jews-cruise.html" REL="nofollow">here's the link.</A>Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.com