tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post5560348792955974649..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Jon & Kate Plus 8: All over but the cryingAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19362881934655841292009-06-01T22:20:10.466-04:002009-06-01T22:20:10.466-04:00this show has gone to their heads. the only reason...this show has gone to their heads. the only reason there ever was to watch the show was the kids. J+K do not have the charisma to be on TV. they are boring. but they seem to think people watch the show for them. it is beyond absurdkswknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77056935268904334192009-05-28T09:40:43.492-04:002009-05-28T09:40:43.492-04:00they need to give up the show and focus on the fam...they need to give up the show and focus on the family. but she is too much of fame whore to do that.<br /><br />Great post.jodifurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02436403330073542241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-25763931342727880452009-05-28T09:01:50.370-04:002009-05-28T09:01:50.370-04:00Honestly, if we weren't asking it aloud, a lot of ...Honestly, if we weren't asking it aloud, a lot of us women were wondering that too.<br /><br />I've never been an angel, but I don't remember ever telling my husband he didn't *breathe* right. (I love that he mentiond that.)<br /><br />It makes me long for the good old days - like the time he told her to "pull the tick out." (was that bad for a family site?) At least he was still showing backbone.<br />I wonder if he just gave up, or the producers told him to not fight back.<br /><br />Apparently there's this contract he signed that says he can e with whoever he wants as long as he shows up to shoot? It's a rumor I heard.<br /><br />I think Kate should go on her book tours, get her talk show (that I won't watch), leave the kids to Jon (and the house - since it's "all for them" anyway, and go get herself an apartment to sleep in between trips. It would be less for her to clean up. (she did spend 4 hours cleaning out the old fridge in her new house, complaining all the while, before she got a shiny new one.)<br /><br />I'm guessing Jon ain't perfect, but he's the lesser of two evils in this case.<br /><br />Screw the College Fund. They should just set up a therapy fund for the kids. Lots of us have been... damaged by our parents, but most of us have't had it air on TV every week.Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-27131432510406151472009-05-28T02:35:00.793-04:002009-05-28T02:35:00.793-04:00Imagine being that guy and having every single man...Imagine being that guy and having every single man you meet -- away from the earshot of a woman -- ask you, "How do you put up with her?!"<br /><br />That had to be that Jon's life.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818051768531898961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-59922155087207820372009-05-28T01:04:54.952-04:002009-05-28T01:04:54.952-04:00i think Kate Gosselin does a good job pulling off ...i think Kate Gosselin does a good job pulling off her own hair, but not very many other people should try this for themselvesNomadhttp://www.coffeenomad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-51669095309040391242009-05-27T18:25:01.905-04:002009-05-27T18:25:01.905-04:00Did anyone notice that this episode pulled in HUGE...<I>Did anyone notice that this episode pulled in HUGE ratings, drawing 9.8 million viewers or more than double the previous high (4.6 mil)</I>..<br /><br />Well, there's less competition from the main networks now... (and, of course, other things) but no, I hadn't heard. thanks.<br /><br />Kate should get her own talk show. If, in return, she stopped *this* show. She's the one who wants to be famous (but not deal with the downside) so let her.<br />Of course, then she would outstrip Martha Stewart in the Most Hated Talk Show Host.<br />(maybe it's just me, but I've always found Martha to be great as a domestic, but sorely lacking on the wife and mom side - which is the role she's trying to portray,(you know - the house is perfect, but you dare not spill anything) isn't it?)<br />Anyway, now she'd have competition.<br /><br />I'm not sure on that, I only watch her when she has a guest I want to see.<br /><br />One thing I find odd - how did Kate end up such a selfish brat, when she had 5 siblings? It's usually us "onlies" who have that problem (your mileage may vary (I was an "only" till I was 6)<br /><br />Oh, and the Duggars used to annoy me (*too* perfect) but then I noticed - Michelle's OB likes JimBob cause he "listens to his wife" (but he's not hen-pecked); they aren't in debt; and while they are a little more sheltered than is probably healthy (you should *see* the world, even if you don't live like it does) there was a quote from Michelle about how she tries to say more good things about her kids *to* her kids than bad things - like 10 to 1 or something. Everyone respects everyone else.<br /><br />I figure they are doing like the Osmonds (who went on tour, singing rather than on Mission as Mormons do) they are trying to spread their POV, but they don't ram it down your throat, and they show the fruits of it.<br />(I wouldn't rush off and join the Quiverfull movement, but I don't mind watching them now and then)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89262485566747112372009-05-27T16:08:19.370-04:002009-05-27T16:08:19.370-04:00I was once an avid fan but I will no longer watch ...I was once an avid fan but I will no longer watch the show. I don't like the way Kate disrespects Jon. I had tears in my eyes after Alexis hugged her father and told him not to leave any more because she missed him. OMG, how can they do this to their kids? J&K actually dislike each other; there was so much friction between them. They both said they were there for their kids. If it's all about the kids, respect them and get off the air. Give the kids a childhood and give them privacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-28716206118128549492009-05-27T14:26:58.722-04:002009-05-27T14:26:58.722-04:00John & Kate: a marriage dissolving is always ...John & Kate: a marriage dissolving is always a sad and angry time. I have been an avid fan since the beginning. Did I like Kate's attitude with John? No, but he didn't stand up and say let's get counseling. Kate obviously has some unresolved issues from her childhood. That's not an excuse but if she's not faced them she may be unaware of them. John, my goodness, can any man in this country keep it in his pants? I'm so tired to men saying I couldn't take the stress, so I had to go out on my wife. What drivel! Even if he didn't have sex, he had an emotional affair which is just as damaging. My heart goes out to both of them and especially the kids. What was once my favorite show on TV ( I so loved to watch all of the kids just being kids and their innocence was so appealing)has now become a bittersweet moment captured for all the world to see. Divorce is ugly, no one wants to watch. Pull the plug, get some help and try to remember what brought the two of you together in the first place. May God bless all of the Gosslein's.Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242176949263327405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-242541209078694562009-05-27T13:42:58.225-04:002009-05-27T13:42:58.225-04:00I watched this show pretty faithfully for about a ...I watched this show pretty faithfully for about a year and a half, and caught up on a lot of old episodes. I started watching because I'd read so many awful things about them on one of the message boards I go to, and wanted to know what all the hate was about. I wasn't feeling the hate. I loved it because the kids are beyond adorable and I found the dynamics between Jon and Kate fascinating. Yes, Kate was rough on him, but he gave as good as he got.<br /><br />But, as Susan said, it's morphed into something else now, and I don't find the implosion of a marriage an appropriate subject for entertainment. The most recent episode just made me sad. I watched because I was curious, but I don't think I can sit through anymore of it.<br /><br />I also wish the best for Jon and Kate, because I don't want horrible things to happen to anyone. And if the worst happens to them, it happens to the kids too.maurahttp://occasionalblond.vox.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-84487140092638545892009-05-27T10:44:33.266-04:002009-05-27T10:44:33.266-04:00What I thought was so sad was when Kate was on her...What I thought was so sad was when Kate was on her shopping trip and she kept giving looks to the cameraman or chatting with him/her. It was partially sad because she had no other adult to talk to except the one she's supposed to be ignoring, and partly because she's gotten so used to the cameras that she's so comfortable with the person filming her life.<br /><br />It was just a sad, uncomfortable episode. I haven't enjoyed the show in a while - I got sick of watching their couple dynamics (Kate griping and bossing, Jon passive and whiny) and I hated when the show became more about the perks of having a show (fancy trips, going on Oprah) then about the day to day life of having so many kids. I'm done with the show now, but I wish them the best - and a speedy cancellation.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02239086941985919886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45373872551478577212009-05-27T09:13:39.394-04:002009-05-27T09:13:39.394-04:00Did anyone notice that this episode pulled in HUGE...Did anyone notice that this episode pulled in HUGE ratings, drawing 9.8 million viewers or more than double the previous high (4.6 mil)<br />Anyone remember the movie Network? Would someone with a vested interest in this the family, the production company, or even the network) consider creating a few seemingly incriminating tabloid photos and a trumped up marital crisis? I'm not suggesting that this happened, just pointing out that people have done more for less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5207608092413057682009-05-27T07:40:55.128-04:002009-05-27T07:40:55.128-04:00BTW, the Hayes family from TLC's "Table o...BTW, the Hayes family from TLC's "Table of 12" live in my hometown and their kids go to school with my kids. I don't personally know them but they do seem to be genuinely good people from the times our paths have crossed.<br /><br />From what I hear about J&K, nobody is defending them because they just aren't good people and never have been. They've alienated their entire family and treat neighbors/fans poorly.<br /><br />I don't think the show fundamentally changed J&K that much. People are who they are. <br /><br />And as I always say to my own kids, you can tell a lot about a person's character from the way they handle stress and adversity...and also how they treat the people around them.Lizbethhttp://travelswithlizbeth.typepad.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-52218370145969292972009-05-27T03:06:13.011-04:002009-05-27T03:06:13.011-04:00Jon& Kate are disgusting. I have no sympathy f...Jon& Kate are disgusting. I have no sympathy for these greedy famewhores. Who in their right minds would seek in-vitro for sextuplets when you already have TWO biological children??? I feel sorry for the two older kids. It seems like they've been forced to step up and start co-parenting.<br /><br />If Jon&Kate received &75,000 per episode + a new home + a new car + free vacations + other freebies... they should have more than enough in savings to support their family. They don't need this show financially. However Kate is addicted to fame & freebies and Jon is a lazy slacker. Jon needs to get off his ass and find a real job!<br /><br />Jon & Kate are worse than the Octo-Mom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-31447931284237331852009-05-27T01:15:57.754-04:002009-05-27T01:15:57.754-04:00"When Alexis hugged her dad and told him she didn'..."When Alexis hugged her dad and told him she didn't want him to leave anymore---I think that was the closest I've ever come to crying over a TV show or a movie."<br /><br />Yes. (well, I've cried before)<br /><br />I just watched the hair plugs episode for the first time before watching the season premiere. And while I think Kate should have looked into prescription drugs a long time ago, I'm willing to believe that this crept up on them. The early freebies were nice things that the kids couldn't use but weren't money that could be spent on the kids. (Aaden does not need a hair transplant and Hannah does not need a tummy tuck.) And at some point the cameras became too normal and the money too easy. <br /><br />But that premiere episode was painfully awkward. The looks being exchanged and ignored during that party were just brutal. The refusal to talk directly about the issues was strange and awkward.<br /><br />(And I would point out that there is a difference between providing for a large family to the understood necessities of 1930's America and providing for a large family in the 2000's, especially if the older kids aren't quite old enough to help out with the <I>half dozen</I> younger ones. That's 8 college tuitions. That's a couple of extra cars when they hit the teen years, out of sheer necessity.)<br /><br />Also: Does no one see the gender hypocrisy of Jon complaining about staying home with the kids? Yes, this should have been discussed between them and probably dealt with differently, but she was at home, ALONE, with all of those children (before Cara & Mady had school), without babysitters or nannies or toilet training.<br /><br />I can't believe I just defended Kate Gosslin. I think I need to go take two aspirin and see someone in the morning. I also can't believe they cannot get their act together enough to not make Alexis (who is admittedly my favorite) break my heart.LKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-70598654700795116682009-05-26T23:41:41.313-04:002009-05-26T23:41:41.313-04:00Amazing. I only noticed one mention of the Table F...Amazing. I only noticed one mention of the Table For 12 in any of the comments. The last couple months are the first time either of these shows popped up on my radar. <br /><br />It is night and day. <br /><br />I wish nothing but the worst for Jon and Kate and the associated producers (but of course the best for their kids), because of the horrible, horrible people they are, and the lowest common denominator they are appealing to. <br /><br />On the other hand, I wish nothing but the best for the family on Table For 12, who are meeting almost identical challenges in their family logistics, yet are staying true to their morals, and will no doubt raise a healthy, happy family together through adulthood. <br /><br />There are only a few series keeping me in Big Cable's clutches, and Table For 12 is one of them.jasonsargonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42678423913396625972009-05-26T22:43:00.869-04:002009-05-26T22:43:00.869-04:00Hard to add much to what has been said so I only h...Hard to add much to what has been said so I only have a few things:<br /><br />Jeff: Finally, someone out there who knows and loves the brilliance of "Defending Your Life." We quote that movie right and left around here.<br /><br />I used to watch J&K+8. I had to stop. I really grew to dislike Kate very, very much. It's interesting though that in all the negative comments about her no one specifically mentioned the one thing she does that I find unacceptable: constantly hitting her husband. It's demeaning; cruel; emasculating...one could go on and on. I've always wondered why Kate's family is "never discussed" by her, but I bet it's more her than them, but who knows.<br /><br />I won't watch that show any more. I just can't. Hearing some of the stories about the kids really felt like a punch in the gut. I actually read a small article where Kate's sister-in-law (the amazingly uber-craft maker one) begged people NOT to watch the show anymore. That says a lot.<br /><br />I've even heard Kate is so in love with fame that she wants her own talk show specifically all about being a mother. *sigh*<br /><br />I'm not saying Jon doesn't have any blame here. I wish so much that they would both go to therapy. If not to save their marriage than to save the lives of their children. I believe they have forgotten their children and are doing horribly by them as parents.<br /><br />It's all so depressing....Jennifer J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-27438793474562035152009-05-26T22:30:05.662-04:002009-05-26T22:30:05.662-04:00The Duggars don't have these problems. They haven'...The Duggars don't have these problems. They haven't allowed the show to fundamentally alter their value system or way of life. Not that I am advocating their lifestyle. <br /><br />Jon and Kate have had the following things paid for by the show:<br />hair plugs<br />tummy tuck<br />trip to Aspen<br />trip to Disney<br />trip to Hawaii<br /><br />They have been seen leaving Mr. Chow restaurant in Beverly Hills, Kate's wardrobe is now very upscale, Jon drives a fancy sports car, Kate has that ridiculous 80's haircut that probably cost $400, they live in a million dollar home, all because of the show. So if they stopped the show they would stop the money and perks. They put materialism before their relationship and children and it is just sad.<br /><br />This show is the worst of American greed and exploitation. I would much rather hang out with the Duggars!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-38446068297272141902009-05-26T21:04:32.680-04:002009-05-26T21:04:32.680-04:00Does anyone know where I could get ahold of "An Am...Does anyone know where I could get ahold of "An American Familly"? I've always wanted to watch it, but it doesn't seem very available. I was pleased to see you bring it up Alan. Thanks!anthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359127276831516077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-78768970736046688352009-05-26T20:35:14.294-04:002009-05-26T20:35:14.294-04:00What about the possibility that this was all a rat...What about the possibility that this was all a ratings stunt. These people are willing make a commodity of and sell their family life, why not gin up a divorce? <br />If not then they are the stupidest people on earth. You mean becoming famous might have negative consequences?<br />Wow, the only way they could have seen that coming was if they had paid attention at all to any aspect of American pop culture at any point since the invention of the penny newspaper and the dime novel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-75590201976450288122009-05-26T20:22:31.845-04:002009-05-26T20:22:31.845-04:00oh I wanted to see Dr Phil deal with Kate, but app...oh I wanted to see Dr Phil deal with Kate, but apparently he *likes* her.<br />Ick!<br /><br />I know there was a time the Dionne quints wrote to the parents of one of the families of multiples, as a warning. Alas it wasn't this family, and they wouldn't get it even if it had been addressed to them.<br /><br />In addition to growing up with your college roommate knowing what went down with your parents<br /><br />a. these kids use to go to naptime with videos of "their show" (reinforcement? wanna see *their* future marriages?)<br />and of course<br />b. they were all potty trained on national TV. (and had their childish fits there as well. I would die of shame if some of my behavior as a kid was on TV!)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-2888390035635729422009-05-26T20:13:19.986-04:002009-05-26T20:13:19.986-04:00btw, my mom was the oldest girl in a family of 13....btw, my mom was the oldest girl in a family of 13.<br />she had two children.<br />(but yes, my grandfather provided for his family without a reality show)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64071246206223133562009-05-26T20:06:42.519-04:002009-05-26T20:06:42.519-04:00I should add that, oddly, I almost missed "re...I should add that, oddly, I almost missed "recent events" cause I was busy saving Chuck ;-)<br /><br />I hadn't had time till a few days ago to wander back over to GWOP, and I only heard things when talk shows I was taping for someone else (Justin Chambers or whoever) also had stories on J&K.Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67387301722930896212009-05-26T19:56:22.296-04:002009-05-26T19:56:22.296-04:00Remember how you don't want talk of politics (...Remember how you don't want talk of politics (or possibly religion) here? J&K produce almost the same level of arguments - especially among women. You're brave.<br /><br /><br />The last post I saw on Gosselins without Pity, had 750 comments. And almost everyone was on the same side of the argument.<br /><br />thanks for noting<br /><br /><I>(or about the way she constantly belittles him on camera)</I> .<br /><br />I did watch it (although I wasn't aware it was on till it was all over TWitter - my DVR did know it was on, and I watched it after eps 6-8 of Dollhouse. (the first two of which made more sense the second time around and the third was new to me)<br /><br />What can I say? I cannot explain to anyone why it is that I dislike Kate Gosselin so extremely much and yet I continue to watch the show. It may be the same reason people slow down for car wrecks.<br /><br />I don't usually go out of my way to hate people. Usually people throw themselves in my path and do upsetting things to make me really dislike them. But with Kate... I'm volunteering. <br /><br />It all started when I heard the title of the show somewhere, and looked it up (I have a large family fetish my brother says. I was a fan of Yours, Mine & Ours, The Family Nobody Wanted, The Keinast quints, and every large family that came down the track)<br /><br />After a few eps, I posted on IMDB that Kate was really annoying! Little did I know.<br /><br />I almost don't blame Jon for looking for a woman to be kind to him (I said *almost* - he should have the cajones to divorce Kate first, contract or no contract). <br /><br />In the end, as Kevin & Jodi said, it's just very sad for the kids. But then, I think living with a mother like that - they are going to be damaged anyway. <br /><br />The only consolation is - when they grow up and go for therapy, their docs can just pull out the tapes of the show, and figure out what their issues are, without having to drag it out of them.<br /><br />I especially liked one line from Jon "some day my kids are going to Google me."<br />Someday? Mady and Cara probably already have.<br />How sad.<br /><br />And of course, people who volunteer for the limelight (like Octomom) can't possibly be so dumbstruck when the paparazzi start following them around. How silly.<br /><br />It's all a sham (and apparently has been for a very long time, if not for the whole time (I don't trust Kate as far as I can throw her))<br /><br />I recommend TLC dump the show (which they wouldn't do with their biggest cash cow) and replace it with Table for 12, which is really delightful (and when did The Learning Channel become the freak show channel? Giant Leg boy, Tree Man, One Ton Teen. No offense to these people but I see no difference to the circus side shows).<br /><br />Anyway, as noted, Table for 12 (two sets of twins (that's *more* than Kate has! *gasp*), 1 set of sextuplets, and two very down to earth, good natured hard working parents not looking for a handout at every turn) is much better than Jon & Kate. And hopefully the Hayes family has their feet firmly enough on the ground to avoid the crap that being on TV has done -- but I think Kate was just out for a buck from the beginning (where is her family - why are they "not in our lives"?) and these people have different values (maybe I should just leave out the word "different").<br /><br />In the meantime, I will admit that whenever it's on, I'm going to watch Little Newlywed Couple - cause the wife is a doctor.<br /><br />Unfortunately, J&K don't air at 8, or you can bet I'd be telling everyone - don't watch that; watch Chuck instead! It's more uplifting!<br /><br />captcha: ardiguePamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4909240485436063332009-05-26T19:47:24.006-04:002009-05-26T19:47:24.006-04:00Yep, these two were headed for divorce long before...Yep, these two were headed for divorce long before the sextuplets came. How they ever got together is beyond me. And, Alan, thanks for reminding me about 'An American Family'--my sibs and I were totally hooked on that back in the day. It was awesome. I guess I've been a reality TV fan longer than I thought!CincyNathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17674464576702200923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-76446994236380434722009-05-26T19:07:34.784-04:002009-05-26T19:07:34.784-04:00When Alexis huggd her dad and told him she didn't ...When Alexis huggd her dad and told him she didn't want him to leave anymore---I think that was the closest I've ever come to crying over a TV show or a movie. Screw these people for what they've done to their kids for the sake of money. <br /><br />It seemed extremely clear to me that Jon was tired of the show and all that came with it, but Kate wouldn't let him shut it down, for whatever reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com