tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post6086262520317984655..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Lost, "The Substitute": Happy JohnAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger176125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5821042673597105142010-02-25T04:05:59.548-05:002010-02-25T04:05:59.548-05:00and speaking of Sawyers underwear.....
I was thin...and speaking of Sawyers underwear.....<br /><br />I was thinking they looked mighty Bright White when he was swing from the cliff.<br /><br />I'm not a perv Alan, lol! It's just that they were so DARN white it was hard not to notice. Inconsistent wardrobe malfunction?????<br /><br />Unless they have super bleach at The Dharma Initiative , in which case I have to get me some of that!Vihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06231514372804175313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-37258283638314862922010-02-25T04:03:26.697-05:002010-02-25T04:03:26.697-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Vihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06231514372804175313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-6787952934054912482010-02-25T04:01:43.129-05:002010-02-25T04:01:43.129-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Vihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06231514372804175313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-15504802057379944302010-02-21T09:24:14.763-05:002010-02-21T09:24:14.763-05:00A thought on Jacob's ceiling: Jacob wrote alot...A thought on Jacob's ceiling: Jacob wrote alot of names, with numbers, on the ceiling. It seems that many of the crossed out ones are individuals who have died, making them unavailable as candidates. But not all - Littleton is one example. <br /><br />Anyway, the "finalists" are all associated with our favorite numbers: 4,5,8, 15,16, 23 ,42. So, is the original broadcast of the numbers (as heard by Sam Toomey and Leonard) really just Jacob "calling his people"?<br /><br />and is that linked to the Valenzetti equation?Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617913434418243769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-62057721018279495962010-02-21T09:15:39.048-05:002010-02-21T09:15:39.048-05:00Some points I don't see addressed above:
1. J...Some points I don't see addressed above:<br /><br />1. Jacob's body - F-Locke pushes the body into the fire, and we see it flare a bit. The next we see, the body is only ashes. It takes an extremely hot fire to entirely burn a body, so did Jacob's body disappear, Jedi-like, into ghost-dom?<br /><br />2. Christian - Is he a ghost, such as Hurley sees, OR did Smokey borrow his body as he did with Eko's brother and with Locke? And if Christian is Smokey, what does that mean for all of the interactions that Christian has had with the Losties, right back to Christian showing Jack where there was fresh water? What does it mean for Claire who followed him?<br /><br />3. How is Alt-Ben alive? Let's say the bomb went off in 1977. It makes sense that Ethan survives, because his mother took him on the sub. But 11-yr-old-Ben is relatively close, at the temple. How could he have survived?<br /><br />In fact, the more I think about this, the more it falls apart. Because wouldn't Eloise Hawking and Charles Widmore have been killed? So, Daniel Faraday wasn't born? And then who showed up in 1954 and told the others to bury the bomb? And who came up with the idea of using the bomb at the swan?<br /><br />So, it seems to me that some other event resets the timeline, despite Juliette's statement that "it worked".Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617913434418243769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4680954160008478002010-02-21T09:10:55.351-05:002010-02-21T09:10:55.351-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617913434418243769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-12681672396231920832010-02-19T15:42:30.833-05:002010-02-19T15:42:30.833-05:00I don't know if anyone else said this yet, but...I don't know if anyone else said this yet, but I got the feeling the kid was Christian.N Pantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08505249734676322521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-24811876544073859822010-02-19T12:18:20.021-05:002010-02-19T12:18:20.021-05:00I thought Jacob was in Sayid now???I thought Jacob was in Sayid now???Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-91918672356186566942010-02-19T00:36:11.423-05:002010-02-19T00:36:11.423-05:00"drbristol, you completely misunderstood my p..."drbristol, you completely misunderstood my point. What I was saying is that they went this entire episode without ever once showing SOME of the major characters..."<br /><br />Sorry, Jobin! But what you wrote was (and I quote) "I don't like that we go entire episodes without seeing a main character."<br /><br />If I misinterpreted your statement, it's only because I took it at face value (the word SOME changes that sentence completely.) Understand now.<br /><br />So as to the cycling of stories, I don't mind - I'm used to it by now. But I definitely enjoy the eps based upon Locke, Ben and Sawyer more than the others, even though there's really not a character I don't like. (Some, like Claire, are less interesting to me than others, but after 6 years I'm pretty much invested in all of them).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23963372970264314112010-02-18T23:28:35.035-05:002010-02-18T23:28:35.035-05:00I'm not as keen on the possibilities of the al...I'm not as keen on the possibilities of the alternate time line as some of you. Mainly because the characters we are watching are clearly different from the ones we have been following for the five previous years. Let's look at the questions Locke's "flash" leaves us after this episode:<br /><br />(1) What is Locke's relationship with his Dad?<br />(2) If his relationship with his Dad is good (as is implied by Helen's suggestion that Locke invite his dad to their wedding), what events have transpired in Locke's dad's past which causes him to not push his son from an apartment window?<br />(3) Did Locke's dad steal his kidney?<br />(4) If Locke's Dad didn't push him from a window, how was Locke paralyzed (and for how long has he been that way)?<br />(5) How did Locke meet Helen (remember they met in a support group related to Locke's abuse at the hands of his father the first time around)?<br />(6) If Locke wasn't pushed out a window, then was he ever in the hospital at the right time to have Abaddon tell him he needed to go on walkabout? If not, why did he decide to go on walkabout?<br />(7) What did Locke do for a week in Australia? (In the original timeline it was at least strongly implied that the ticket the walkabout company purchased for Locke was very soon to depart after he was rejected from participating in the tour.)<br />(8) If Locke's Dad is a nice guy now, what effect does that have on Sawyer's alternate story? Are Sawyer's parents alive?<br /><br />I am sure there are hundreds more that could be asked about Locke or any of the other alternate versions of the castaways, but therein lies the problem. We don't know who alternate Locke is any better than we know, for instance, who Cindy the stewardess is. There's a hole in the narrative that makes it impossible to be certain what things actually happened in the story we are being told. I don't see any way around this for the show's producers and it's becoming more and more troublesome. At least to me.Rickhttp://ricksflicks.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost-substitute.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-41186957266846139912010-02-18T21:53:59.616-05:002010-02-18T21:53:59.616-05:00mck -
Makes sense given Sawyer's pretty calm ...mck -<br /><br />Makes sense given Sawyer's pretty calm and debonair demeanor in the Lost X timeline. His parents could still be alive and Juliet might be waiting for him at home (which could explain her "going dutch" comment in the premiere).Henrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79575450823258896162010-02-18T20:16:27.896-05:002010-02-18T20:16:27.896-05:00Sorry if this was already said, but 166 comments i...Sorry if this was already said, but 166 comments is a lot to catch up on. <br /><br />"• Even more startling than the idea of Locke still being in a relationship with Helen was Helen's casual suggestion that they elope to Vegas with "my parents and your dad." Is Anthony Cooper a much less evil man in this timeline, or does alt-Locke somehow have a different daddy? And how did alt-Locke wind up in a wheelchair?"<br /><br />I'm really excited about what this means for Sawyer. Did Cooper never become a con man? Are Sawyer's parents alive? And what does this mean for Sawyer's alt-character?<br /><br />Tuesday can't come fast enough.<br /><br />http://mcklowry.blogspot.commckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01896170919441378784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18281562899665340422010-02-18T19:16:53.266-05:002010-02-18T19:16:53.266-05:00Random question - did I understand correctly that ...Random question - did I understand correctly that Esau is now permanently stuck in Locke form? <br /><br />Because if so, I'll miss the ever reliable Titus Welliver. When he ain't lying, he's the most honorable character actor you'll ever meet.Pandyorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17612356293840428373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-10655257960668371172010-02-18T18:04:42.802-05:002010-02-18T18:04:42.802-05:00In that scene from "Par Avion", Mikhail ...In that scene from "Par Avion", Mikhail also seemed to imply that Sayid and Locke were not on the list, the way he looked at each of them as he enumerated the reasons they were not chosen. I imagine most of the Others were never allowed to see the list for themselves and were fed a lot of lies about who is and isn't on it by Ben. He could use it as a recruiting tool ("Jacob Wants You!") and to draw a distinct line between "us", Jacob's chosen people, and "them", the bad guys.Scott J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-32907295915540727412010-02-18T16:58:37.009-05:002010-02-18T16:58:37.009-05:00If the Others have been making lists all this time...If the Others have been making lists all this time, and referring to them as "Jacob's lists" (a connection I still can't quite understand since we get confirmation that the Others were actually drafting the lists in Season 3), how is it that the Losties we know and love were only referenced on one such list at the start of this season, when we now know that Jacob has been keeping track of them all this time? <br /><br />Did the "Candidate Six" need to experience life out on the Island for a time? Did Jacob only recently identify them? <br /><br />More ominously, is the Man in Black just telling Sawyer a pack of lies while they are in the cave? Rather than candidates, do the markings on the wall instead show a kind of "Kill Bill" style hit list drafted by Smokey himself? We did see him cross off Locke's name in this one, and it's quite clear that we aren't supposed to take the Man in Black at face value (obviously the Island needs protecting from something, despite what he tells Sawyer).Rickhttp://ricksflicks.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost-substitute.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-37035421496690326972010-02-18T16:21:11.399-05:002010-02-18T16:21:11.399-05:00i'm pretty sure that the seat numbers don'...i'm pretty sure that the seat numbers don't correspond. locke was never in the 4th row.<br /><br />moreover, i'm pretty sure that ana lucia was in the 42nd row (42F?), and we know neither jin nor sun was that far back in the plane or they would have been with the tailiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-32932253715172643472010-02-18T15:56:06.364-05:002010-02-18T15:56:06.364-05:00This was probably covered more after the finale la...This was probably covered more after the finale last season, but I saw one or two touch on this. I think when looking at the biblical story of the twins Jacob and Esau, it provides a great parallel to this story and blurs the line of which one is good/bad.<br /><br />After Issac learns that Jacob deceived him to receive the 1st born blessing, he tells Esau: "By your sword you shall live, but your brother you shall serve; yet it shall be that when you are aggrieved, you may cast off his yoke from upon your neck" (27:39-40).<br /><br />It seems to me that Esau is being held against his will on the island when NotLocke says it's been so long that he can't remember what being free is like. <br /><br />Plus, Locke has been always been associated with knives through the entire show. He always carries that one on his belt. He killed Naomi with a knife in the back and the luggage back from Australia was a box of knives. Even smoke monster stops to pick up his machete in this episode. Is it just me, but when Richard goes to visit him as a child to test his "candidacy", didn't he pick up the knife then too?Karlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-21692902428524127152010-02-18T15:39:13.155-05:002010-02-18T15:39:13.155-05:00Random thought - the scene where Sawyer and Flocke...Random thought - the scene where Sawyer and Flocke stood at the edge of the cliff reminded me a lot of Agatha Christie's "And Then There Were None" (SPOILER ALERT for anyone who hasn't read it)... in the book, the JUDGE/murderer pushes his unsuspecting victim off the cliff (he had brought him out under the pretense that he needed to show him something). After murdering everyone else on the ISLAND, he kills himself (he had a terminal illness anyway), leaving no one alive and the investigators at a loss for who the real murderer is. Perhaps Smocke's end goal is to leave no one alive on the island and he will finally be able to die.LockaBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-31584704020214085122010-02-18T14:23:15.468-05:002010-02-18T14:23:15.468-05:00In Par Avion, Mikhail says to Kate ...."You a...In Par Avion, Mikhail says to Kate ...."You are not on the list because you are flawed. 'Cause you are angry and weak and frightened...." <br />How does Mikhail know about the list and apparently Richard does not???Greg with 1 Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00736548735465314822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-49016368640136529912010-02-18T13:28:55.561-05:002010-02-18T13:28:55.561-05:00In Season 3, the cliffhanger on "The Man from...In Season 3, the cliffhanger on "The Man from Tallahassee" is the reveal of Anthony Cooper on the Island. They don't come back to that until "The Brig" 6 episodes later. That's a month and a half if there are no breaks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73904621917439790332010-02-18T12:42:31.869-05:002010-02-18T12:42:31.869-05:00Here's a random thought/possibility - Jin &...Here's a random thought/possibility - Jin & Sun will together become Jacob's (and MIB's) replacement and their original bodies will somehow become "Adam & Eve" with the black and white stones. Jacob did touch them both at the same time and the Kwon on the wall could refer to both of them together. Of course, that could mean poor Ji Yeon grows up an orphan. I also wonder if Hurley ever even bother to tell Jin that he has a daughter.LockaBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18591960574928705202010-02-18T12:31:52.106-05:002010-02-18T12:31:52.106-05:00I think it's pretty silly hearing people gripe...I think it's pretty silly hearing people gripe that we don't get to see every main character in every episode. For every scene this week of Jack, etc, there would be one less scene of Sawyer & Flocke. If there was another scene of Jin & Claire, then there would be one less scene of Ben/Lapidus/Ilana/Sun. So we would get about 1 scene from each group plus the flash-sideways stuff meaning virtually no movement would be made for any of the groups. What you're really complaining about is that you want your answers NOW NOW NOW and can't wait. We've had many episode-ending cliffhangers in the past similar to Claire's capture of Jin where that storyline wasn't picked up again until a few episodes later.LockaBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-16160137728809937152010-02-18T12:28:15.825-05:002010-02-18T12:28:15.825-05:00I think the episodes alternating between one group...<i>I think the episodes alternating between one group of characters while leaving the other group out entirely is a little annoying as well. [...]<br />It also kind of ruins the momentum of the show.</i><br /><br />I can see where it's frustrating in the week to week (it's not to me), but they way they structure really works when watched back-to-back. On DVD, the show plays like a big epic novel, with a chapter following this group, the next following another, and everyone gradually coming together towards the end.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15130480927375919459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18752302089808406112010-02-18T12:27:30.184-05:002010-02-18T12:27:30.184-05:00Jimmy - the Ajira crashed on Hydra Island, so unle...Jimmy - the Ajira crashed on Hydra Island, so unless they took a boat trip back and managed to avoid seeing all the other Ajira survivors (wonder what they're up to by the way), I don't think that's where they went.<br /><br />It's pretty obvious they went back to the original beach since we see the other graves for people like Shannon, Boone, Nicki & Paolo while we can also see Eko's half-built church in the background.LockaBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-25154029520181082972010-02-18T12:17:37.023-05:002010-02-18T12:17:37.023-05:00I think the episodes alternating between one group...I think the episodes alternating between one group of characters while leaving the other group out entirely is a little annoying as well. I know that groups have been left out of episodes from the beginning, but for some reason it seems more apparent for the last few eps than it had before.<br /><br />In other seasons the different groups were less connected maybe. For example, last season during eps showing Jack and co off island I wasn't really concerned with what was going on in dharmaville simultansously. Whereas now, while Smoke Locke is traipsing through the jungle with Sawyer there must be stuff going on at the temple that directly affects the interaction between the temple people and Locke.<br /><br />It is probably impossible to include each main group of characters in every episode, but I do agree that focussing on one or two groups while leaving another out entirely creates a little confusion on the sequence of events.<br /><br />It also kind of ruins the momentum of the show. Last episode left on a huge cliffhanger with Claire showing up. And then she was nowhere to be seen in the next ep. It will be interesting to see where the next ep picks up. I will have to pay attention to the timing of things.Laurelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06971918176555742207noreply@blogger.com