tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post6102592595555237601..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Heroes: Hell if I knowAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-83252884457403448042007-11-02T08:32:00.000-04:002007-11-02T08:32:00.000-04:00good point, andrew - although, to that end: could ...good point, andrew - although, to that end: could parkman be up and policing 4 months after a shot to his gut?<BR/><BR/>i realize it wouldn't exactly be scintillating TV if the characters all set around and pulled farley shows on us for 60 minutes every week (remember that time we saved the world? that was AWESOME!), but at the same time, thus far, nathan is the only one to make ANY mention of it, and that was during the dream/fight sequence last week. oh, and i guess DL is dead, too. that's the only other tie to the finale that i can recall so far this year.<BR/><BR/>hiro is going to blow the continuum; i'm feeling more and more convinced of it.The Pale Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468377597257250687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64467954085690373652007-11-01T15:56:00.000-04:002007-11-01T15:56:00.000-04:00Pale:If memory serves, Parkman was slowly bleeding...Pale:<BR/><BR/>If memory serves, Parkman was slowly bleeding out in a near-death state by the time Nathan showed up to save the day. He's forgiven for being less than aware.<BR/><BR/>But in general I agree with the sentiment. It annoys me that we have to wait till the inevitable "Four Months Ago" flashback episode to find out why Nathan isn't a Congressman (you'd think *that* would have come up at some point).Andrew Dignanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535783608109870688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-83047816208051218442007-11-01T11:20:00.000-04:002007-11-01T11:20:00.000-04:00HRG's gunshot was the most explicit line-crossing ...<I>HRG's gunshot was the most explicit line-crossing -- except that he's no doubt done it before., so his line is probably a dotted one.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm not entirely sure we've seen HRG's line yet.<BR/><BR/>This ep was a little dull, but I did find things about it that I liked, such as Claire maybe seeing a glimpse of West not being such a nice guy after all (and I don't think the evil cheerleader will be traumatized since since it's easy to rationalize it to being completely hammered), or seeing HRG back in his glory. But yeah, the Hiro thing didn't get interesting to me until he said he screwed up the space-time continuum and then we saw Peter in the effed-up future. Except that Ando seems to remember more stuff than anyone else...hmmm....<BR/><BR/>BTW, damn those spammers for causing you to have to go back to the word verification thang!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-46987880386373894502007-11-01T08:37:00.000-04:002007-11-01T08:37:00.000-04:00i'm with andrew; there were developments this week...i'm with andrew; there were developments this week that have a whiff of interesting, and I liked the episode as a whole: everyone crossing a line into darker territory is a unique, star wars-ian approach; i like it. can they pull it off, though…<BR/><BR/>most promising, aside from sylar having a hot, evil partner, is that it looks like hiro may have gone all marty mcfly and screwed with the space/time continuum.<BR/><BR/>what's been striking thus far is that none one seems to know each other and so far as I can remember, other than nathan, not a single character has mentioned nyc city being saved. case in point: parkman and nathan teamed up last week, and matt never said, "oh hey, btw, last time i saw you, weren't you rocketing into space with your brother in order to save the planet? yeah, how'd that work out?" instead, they acted like they had little or no idea who the other guy was.<BR/><BR/>so my guess is that hiro has altered the timeline and set everyone on a different course.<BR/><BR/>i also suspect nikki is going to kill suresh, btw. random guess.The Pale Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468377597257250687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5225749566148015162007-10-31T23:09:00.000-04:002007-10-31T23:09:00.000-04:00I'm intrigued by a line that was basically a throw...I'm intrigued by a line that was basically a throwaway - Ivan said that the paintings were stored in a warehouse "where we tagged the liquid man".<BR/><BR/>Now that sounds like a cool power to show up before the end of the season! Probably expensive with CGI, I'll bet!Toby O'Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999037844031101965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-65312418605553957512007-10-31T21:50:00.000-04:002007-10-31T21:50:00.000-04:00I have been a defender on the feudal Japan story a...I have been a defender on the feudal Japan story arc in the past, mainly because it had one of our favorite characters, Hiro and the show's best guest actor, David Anders. But the storyline is dull and really silly now. <BR/><BR/>Yes, the great epic battle was 3 guys chasing them through tents? I watched that in dull amazement. <BR/><BR/>But overall, the criticism of Tim Kring is completely justified. This show is hard to watch but the truth is, with the pending WGA strike, I am sticking with shows longer than normal now - but no show is testing my patience worse than frakking "Heroes".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33368458259263073012007-10-31T19:40:00.000-04:002007-10-31T19:40:00.000-04:00Money, marbles, or chalk says Bryan Fuller was the...Money, marbles, or chalk says Bryan Fuller was the creative force behind "Heroes" last season no matter what anyone says. All you have to do is look at the last 2 seasons of "Heroes" and this current one of "Pushing Daisies" which is quickly turning into my favorite show of the year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-28351028078973094682007-10-31T17:48:00.000-04:002007-10-31T17:48:00.000-04:00Sorry anonymous. I did a whole song and dance of "...Sorry anonymous. I did a whole song and dance of "not a spoiler just a thought I'd been working on" a few episodes back in this space and I probably should have repeated it just out of courtesy. At the time it was based on a lot of circumstantial evidence and a few storytelling tropes (why make Anders a regular only to have him be stuck in the feudal Japan, the killer has to be someone we're familiar with otherwise what's the point, etc...) with no real motive or reasoning behind it. But now that we're seeing this side of the character (and know he could walk away from a nose dive off of a building) it does seem to lend a little credence my pet theory. Hopefully I didn't catch on to the writer's game plan too early and ruin it for everyone (and in the event I did, I should petition the writers of the show to get onto the staff).Andrew Dignanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535783608109870688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-30690821629773032872007-10-31T13:22:00.000-04:002007-10-31T13:22:00.000-04:00Alan, I think the loss of Bryan Fuller to PUSHING ...Alan, I think the loss of Bryan Fuller to PUSHING DAISIES has really hurt this show. I think he was the collaborative showrunner who brought the fresh, forward momentum to the first season. By the way, the first season - with the exception of the "eh" finale wears exceptionally well on DVD. This season blows so far.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09807060990375827172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-60122354637204682682007-10-31T08:17:00.000-04:002007-10-31T08:17:00.000-04:00Reminds me of all those episodes of Lost last seas...Reminds me of all those episodes of Lost last season--glacial pace, almost gave up on it, but somehow stuck with it and was rewarded with the season finale. Unfortunately, this isn't Lost we're talking about...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-81960737897647717712007-10-31T02:36:00.000-04:002007-10-31T02:36:00.000-04:00In fairness to Andrew, this prediction just made m...In fairness to Andrew, this prediction just made me want to see the rest of this volume, because so far nothing else has.dark tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461345493748899275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85772035483266600392007-10-31T00:11:00.000-04:002007-10-31T00:11:00.000-04:00Damn it Andrew, even though it's just a theory, it...Damn it Andrew, even though it's just a theory, it sure as fuck comes across as a spoiler to the rest of us, especially when you give it a moment's thought and realize it's correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5158235024538818922007-10-30T21:51:00.000-04:002007-10-30T21:51:00.000-04:00Can someone wake me up when Season 2 of Heroes sta...Can someone wake me up when Season 2 of Heroes starts? <BR/><BR/>HRG -- pretty good (though as Chris noted, the CG backgrounds he's been in front of have been bad). <BR/><BR/>Everything else -- snore. I'm even tired of Hiro in ancient Japan. <BR/><BR/>I keep thinking of that line from Batman -- "This town needs an enema!" I mean, Heroes needs <I>something</I>. I mean, when Reaper is better in a given week, it's time to be afraid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-17208927731535218402007-10-30T19:35:00.000-04:002007-10-30T19:35:00.000-04:00Ordinarily, this kind of episode is my favorite ty...Ordinarily, this kind of episode is my favorite type of episode: character turning points. <BR/><BR/>So I disagree that nothing happened in this episode. <BR/><BR/>The title of the episode was "The Line" and almost all of the characters crossed over to the dark side of it. Claire with her not-so-petty tormenting of the cheerleader bitca, Maya with her murder of the border posse, Hiro with his betrayal of Kensei and vice versa, Peter with his implicit agreement to help Irish girl kill Veronica Mars. HRG's gunshot was the most explicit line-crossing -- except that he's no doubt done it before., so his line is probably a dotted one. <BR/><BR/>Mohinder's storyline looks to be the exception - but I can't go into much detail because I'm not much interested in him except when he's competing with Parkman and Molly on who gets to be the Mommy of the household. (So far, I think it's a 3-way tie.) <BR/><BR/>That said, this show gives such short shrift to character that it all felt more like plot development than character development. <BR/><BR/>Meh. <BR/><BR/>I miss Joss Whedon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-82935853334219192502007-10-30T19:31:00.000-04:002007-10-30T19:31:00.000-04:00I wish the Haitian could take my memory of s2 so f...<I>I wish the Haitian could take my memory of s2 so far.</I><BR/><BR/>Now that is hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-90531862574270825992007-10-30T19:22:00.000-04:002007-10-30T19:22:00.000-04:00"What did everybody else think?Did the writers' st..."What did everybody else think?<BR/><BR/>Did the writers' strike start early?<BR/><BR/>Kring: Oh damn, no writers, what are we going to do for next season?<BR/><BR/>NBC Exec: Don't worry, just recycle last, season.<BR/><BR/>Kring: Brilliant!<BR/><BR/>NBC Exec: Brilliant!!<BR/><BR/>Kring: And Guinness Stout comes in a bottle, too?!?"<BR/><BR/>- LOL<BR/><BR/>I wish the Haitian could take my memory of s2 so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-87150822600276358972007-10-30T19:20:00.000-04:002007-10-30T19:20:00.000-04:00Entertainment Weekly had a GREAT review of the sho...Entertainment Weekly had a GREAT review of the show a couple of weeks ago:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20152909,00.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85641503007024569672007-10-30T17:50:00.000-04:002007-10-30T17:50:00.000-04:00What did everybody else think?Did the writers' str...<I>What did everybody else think?</I><BR/><BR/>Did the writers' strike start early?<BR/><BR/>Kring: Oh damn, no writers, what are we going to do for next season?<BR/><BR/>NBC Exec: Don't worry, just recycle <I>last</I>, season.<BR/><BR/>Kring: Brilliant!<BR/><BR/>NBC Exec: Brilliant!!<BR/><BR/>Kring: And Guinness Stout comes in a bottle, too?!?<BR/><BR/>(woops, how did that product placement get in this comment?)XWLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646729965929680256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-23087948093930974312007-10-30T16:46:00.000-04:002007-10-30T16:46:00.000-04:00Sylar stroking Maya's hair and basically acting li...Sylar stroking Maya's hair and basically acting like he wanted to lick her face? Super creepy!<BR/><BR/>Sylar then giving a big obvious villain speech about his eeeeevil plans for Maya? Super boring and stupid.<BR/><BR/>I've been trying not to have second season let-down, but it's getting hard.<BR/><BR/>I hope Claire's poor judgment in agreeing to use her powers to terrorize a school rival was an intended parallel to her father's resumption of his dark ways, but perhaps I am giving the writers too much credit? After all, they think I'm too stupid to not get why Sylar is hanging with the Black Oil Twins.A.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11093803634816636548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18779253642268547412007-10-30T16:39:00.000-04:002007-10-30T16:39:00.000-04:00Except for the HRG stuff, last night was simply cr...Except for the HRG stuff, last night was simply crappy, and Alan, your analysis is dead on. What the writers haven't learned from last year is that we don't want to wait for an action packed episode. Entertain us. Don't tell us to wait for episode 7. <BR/><BR/>plus too many storylines. Please, writers, we got interested in the characters last year. Breaking up the storylines so much and adding new characters just makes it look like you don't know what you're doing and are trying to string us along. Or saving the best shows until after the strike or whatever. I'm not canceling the season pass yet, but good Lord, I'm going to bitch a lot about the failures of the show for a while.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-24012875513873774492007-10-30T16:06:00.000-04:002007-10-30T16:06:00.000-04:00Going to offer a slightly differing opinion than m...Going to offer a slightly differing opinion than most of the commenters in that I think this was the most promising episode of the season. Not to say good of course, but seem to be laying the groundwork for something to actually happen down the road.<BR/><BR/>So, yeah, saving NYC from a killer virus isn't all that different or more imaginative than saving it from a bomb, but at least it's you, know, ACTUAL CONFLICT. Something to rally around. And yes, the wonder twins continue to suck, but everything is adding up to Alejandro being killed off in short order (half the free world, including Dania Ramirez, is now in the main cast crawl yet Shalim Ortiz remains in the guess star ghetto. Hmm...) So at least we can anticipate Sylar will be killing him and eating his brain (and probably keeping Maya around as his evil love interest/co-conspirator ) which would be a fun wrinkle. In fact Sylar laying out his evil plan to the non-English speaking Alejandro was the first moment of this season that actually reminded me of how much twisted fun the show used to be.<BR/><BR/>Also the Hiro through time storyline <I>finally</I> has begun to payoff and lends some weight to my Kensei killed Sulu theory from a few weeks back.<BR/><BR/>Plus HRG as cold-blooded assassin, using his instincts as a father to interrogate and torture a former friend was great.<BR/><BR/>Still so much of this show remains just awful though. The decision to turn the show into Heroes: Coupling has been without exception a disaster. Claire has never been less interesting and West is essentially Peter's haircut from season one with less personality. Speaking of which, every second Peter spends with his biddy lass makes my bowels tremble. If the show ever places Pete and West in the same scene together it's gonna resemble that scene from Scanners in my apartment. <BR/><BR/>Lack of forward progress is a drag and that we're already 1/3 of the way done with the season underlines how poorly planned out this plot-line has been but I'm holding out hope that the next 8 episode arc will be more focused.Andrew Dignanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535783608109870688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-25143351256942948002007-10-30T15:44:00.000-04:002007-10-30T15:44:00.000-04:00So I just check out the link you sent of the Kring...So I just check out the link you sent of the Kring interview.<BR/><BR/><I>Unlike last season, in which all 23 episodes built to an end-of-the-season climax, the producers this year split up the storytelling, with the first "volume" due to be wrapped in the 11th episode. Plot strands that viewers have found tantalizing or just frustrating... will be explained, Kring promises. "It will all be paid off by episode 11," Kring said. "From seven to 11 are the best episodes we've ever done."</I><BR/><BR/>That will be my light at the end of the tunnel and mantra for getting through the slow episodes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89733765831196177282007-10-30T15:34:00.000-04:002007-10-30T15:34:00.000-04:00This week was the closest I came to cancelling my ...<I>This week was the closest I came to cancelling my Season Pass on my TiVO.</I><BR/><BR/>Same here. I literally had the menu up to cancel it, but I changed my mind at the last minute. One more episode like this and I am done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-39156608280911995822007-10-30T15:17:00.000-04:002007-10-30T15:17:00.000-04:00The only reason I'm still watching this show is to...The only reason I'm still watching this show is to be able to gripe about it on the message board I frequent. I'll give the show until episode 2.11 (assuming the Colts aren't on Monday Night Football) but if there are not vast improvements that will be it for me and Heroes. 6 episodes to get us from "You saved NYC from exploding in Nov. 2006, what are you going to do now?" to "I'm going to save NYC in June 2008." This is the big idea?<BR/><BR/>Oh and in the meantime I'm going to make you hate your favorite character by sending him to 1671 Japan. How little could I care about keeping guns out of Japan in the 17th century? What's the smallest thing you can think of?<BR/><BR/>Everyone else, especially creepy West, just kill them all.memphishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11135806668363907263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-38408373783544305242007-10-30T14:43:00.000-04:002007-10-30T14:43:00.000-04:00I haven't watched last night's episode yet, and un...I haven't watched last night's episode yet, and unless I end up home sick one day this week with nothing to do but watch TV, I don't think that I need to spend 45 minutes catching up with this. I guess that's my modus operandi with Heroes for the rest of this season (which was my MO for most of last season)-- watch only if the episode has good blog buzz, spoilers be damned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com