tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post6159796419524131143..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Dexter, "The Getaway": I want to break freeAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-40488762693159972092010-07-25T23:04:12.556-04:002010-07-25T23:04:12.556-04:00I think the neighbor killed Rita. Dexter will fig...I think the neighbor killed Rita. Dexter will figure out the Trinity did not do it and be on the hunt for the real killer... like OJ.Hgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-31788787112048455362009-12-26T15:26:19.418-05:002009-12-26T15:26:19.418-05:00All in all, a very strong season finale and a grea...All in all, a very strong season finale and a great way to return the emphasis of its show back to its roots...to Dexter's origin story, to the relationship between Dexter and his sister, and to Dexter forced to confront and deal with what he is and what he will become. <br /><br />I'm hoping we're mostly done with Harry's ghost and I'm pretty sure we're all done with all things Trinity.Mike Fnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5409328230168911302009-12-20T19:57:29.898-05:002009-12-20T19:57:29.898-05:00it's been a week and the choice to kill off Ri...it's been a week and the choice to kill off Rita still seems like a good move for this show. It packed an emotional wallop (even if the details can be questioned for continuity) and leaves us wondering about next season far more than we have the last 4. <br /><br />Of the scenarios mentioned, I hope that they<br />- move Deb in with Dexter and let them both deal with the kids. Probably there will be a nanny to help. But the scenes with Deb uncomfortably playing Aunt to the kids in the Thanksgiving show was priceless.<br />- find a way to probe uncomfortably into Rita's death that will closely expose Dexter's secret. As someone recently noted, this will keep interest in the show alive. For me those near misses of Dexter being found out are compelling. I'm not sure if Quinn has enough Doaks in him to be the one to push the buttons. My guess is that next year's guest star is a another Fed brought in. But it won't be a season 2 Lundy repeat. Except Deb probably will sleep with him. <br /><br />Unless it's a her. And I would guess Deb would still be interested. <br />- decrease Harry time. Enough already. And DO NOT do the Rita giving Dexter parenting advice from the grave. Occasional flashbacks are one thing. As another ghostly sidekick is too much. <br /><br />AND I seriously doubt that they will<br />- link Deb and Dexter romantically (ewww. Just ewww.)<br />- get rid of Laguerda and Batista (they help to give the show a Miami feel)<br />- or Matsuka, because they are very smart people.<br />- have Dexter train Harrison to follow in his footsteps. Let's face it, this is a baby. They would need to do some serious fast forwarding to bring this kid to an age of useful training. Rather the kid will continue to serve as the proxy humanizing influence for Dexter. <br /><br />thanks all for the intriguing posts and ideas, and Alan thanks for not giving up (space) on Dexter.HaroldsMaudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06548639096681791389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-48392476480336119282009-12-20T17:35:42.142-05:002009-12-20T17:35:42.142-05:00I assume that Dexter was hiding in Trinity's c...I assume that Dexter was hiding in Trinity's car (either the trunk or back seat), after removing the oil cap, which is how he made an appearance so quickly after Trinity broke down on the road. (Remember, he had found the receipt for Trinity's Mustang at Julio's Auto Body.)<br /><br />As for who killed Rita, I think it's clear that Trinity did. Remember that in the police station, he threatened Dexter's family, if he didn't back down from his blackmail threats. Instead, Dexter chased him, knocked him out and stole his money (or at least that's how Arthur would see it - not knowing that Dexter was a serial killer.) So Trinity followed through with his threat and went to Dexter's home. And Rita happened to be the family member who was there at the time. As Arthur saw it, he had gotten back at Kyle/Dexter, and was now free to hit the road in his Mustang and disappear.<br /><br />Other than the obvious, another reason to believe this is Arthur's remarks on the killing table, in which he appears to know how futile are Dexter's hope of being "good for his family" (since Arthur knows Dexter has already caused Rita's death). As he says, "It already over."Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-21432979658748328432009-12-19T03:19:21.427-05:002009-12-19T03:19:21.427-05:00Loved this ending when I saw it, but the more thin...Loved this ending when I saw it, but the more thinking about it the more problems arise, most of which people have brought up.<br /><br />They rushed through how Dexter found Trinity before he left. When did he have time to remove the radiator cap? And how did he get in position when the car broke down? Apparently Dexter did all this at night after Trinity had time to kill Rita at night after she left the moon message.<br /><br />There is the theory that Trinity didn't kill Rita that's been floating around. That might be the only way to redeem these plot holes. Dexter would be the first person to realize this, would be my guess.<br /><br />So my suggestion for Season 5: Copy the Shield. And by that I mean bring in a kick-ass guest star ala Forrest Whitaker as an FBI agent who is pestering Dexter after investigating the family, Trinity's last interactions, etc. They can't gloss over the trail Dexter left. And Dexter has to compromise his code left and right to keep from getting caught. But I like the "Trinity didn't kill Rita" idea. Dexter should put it together and find out who did kill Rita. I'm sure Debra will figure it out. In fact it would be great if he <i>wanted</i> Deb's help to find the killer this time. But how does he get his revenge without the new guest-star-FBI-agent on his ass? And it's time to make the kids real characters. Now they're his responsibility and he has to teach them codes himself. There is a lot to play with next season. But they have to 1.) Cover the holes they left and 2) Not get into a rut<br /><br />But I must say I liked this season for sure... In fact Dexter was my Halloween costume.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16588078062682665783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-62095860690793439642009-12-19T00:11:46.120-05:002009-12-19T00:11:46.120-05:00You hoped he would kill her because she trusted he...<i>You hoped he would kill her because she trusted her husband to be non-judgmental enough not to mind her singing along to a song she liked? That's pretty depressing to hear. </i><br /><br />No, because at that moment, she was one of the most irritating characters to ever hit the small screen. Obviously, you fail to see that the writers deliberately made her that way this season so that the audience would be happy to see her go. (For most of us, it worked.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-66532980667405424402009-12-18T15:30:35.560-05:002009-12-18T15:30:35.560-05:00One simple phrase: "Karma Chameleon." Re...<i>One simple phrase: "Karma Chameleon." Remember that scene in the car? (I was hoping he would kill her right then and there.)</i><br /><br />You hoped he would kill her because she trusted her husband to be non-judgmental enough not to mind her singing along to a song she liked? That's pretty depressing to hear. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-82551423324193320992009-12-18T01:48:27.946-05:002009-12-18T01:48:27.946-05:00Ok - Deb/Dexter being involved wasn't ever som...Ok - Deb/Dexter being involved wasn't ever something I thought could happen...but A LOT happened in this last episode..<br /><br />Plus they set up Batista's romance in S3, just to throw us into the middle of his secret romance with Laguerta..<br /><br />Deb found out about Laura Moser + Deb/Dexter have both just gone through heavy ordeals (Rita dead but even more so Harrison having to watch her die) and Deb watching Christine blow her brains out (not to mention Lundy & Deb's messed up history in general).. <br /><br />They only have each other right now. Unless they decide to have Deb get involved with Quinn or someone new. We all know Deb cannot go a season without sex (or any character really on the show..mostly).<br /><br />Also the finale had some unbelievable things happen...<br />Guess we'll either accept them or maybe they'll address them next season?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17610531282852361705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-3916062707853080812009-12-17T21:31:34.993-05:002009-12-17T21:31:34.993-05:00There will be no Dexter/Deb romance on the show. ...There will be no Dexter/Deb romance on the show. Although the characters are not blood-related, they ARE brother and sister. They were raised together in the same house as just that.<br /><br />Studies have shown that the anti-incest instinct in humans is brought on by upbringing, not genes. Unrelated children who were raised together in Israeli kibitzes (communes), for instance, often failed to become romantically interested in each other because they thought of themselves as brother & sister.<br /><br />Plus, it would just be too creepy. ;)Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-58807089286377470312009-12-17T21:24:47.595-05:002009-12-17T21:24:47.595-05:00Anonymous said...
I don't understand the &...<i>Anonymous said... <br /><br /> I don't understand the "Rita is a nag" comments. </i><br /><br />One simple phrase: "Karma Chameleon." Remember that scene in the car? (I was hoping he would kill her right then and there.)Larrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-66906227934789965532009-12-17T19:42:03.324-05:002009-12-17T19:42:03.324-05:00I for one enjoyed the Rita character a lot. But th...I for one enjoyed the Rita character a lot. But that aside, I think this show needs to commit to a theme. Sociopathic murderers don't save suicidal people from jumping off roofs. Furthermore, sociopathic murderers are rarely suicidal. Lastly, what interest would a sociopathic killer have in killing his rival's wife? Wouldn't he understand Dexter has no real emotional attachment to Rita? Why would he possess the emotional motivation to care to even the score with Dexter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-65096941143082756622009-12-17T16:50:18.583-05:002009-12-17T16:50:18.583-05:00I don't understand the "Rita is a nag&quo...I don't understand the "Rita is a nag" comments. Sure, she was pushier than in the previous seasons, but all she wanted was to make sure that Dexter would be open with her instead of withdrawing (if nagging means she wanted to go to therapy at the first signs of trouble instead of waiting the problems to get worse), and I actually thought Rita of the previous seasons was too much of an unbelievable saint. The most unbelievable thing probably was when she was willing to let Dexter walk out on her after she got pregnant instead of making him take responsibility of is actions. S4 Rita may not be easy to deal with, but she was human in ways Stepford's Wife Rita from the earlier seasons wasn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-2520737451058406792009-12-17T12:04:41.502-05:002009-12-17T12:04:41.502-05:00what if Rita's neighbour killed her in a copyc...what if Rita's neighbour killed her in a copycat fashionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-2726251186316752002009-12-17T00:53:27.689-05:002009-12-17T00:53:27.689-05:00Dexter seemed very calm at the scene of Rita's...Dexter seemed very calm at the scene of Rita's murder given the circumstances so I wouldn't bet against him tampering with the scene in order to paint it to his own benefit.<br /><br />Is there any way he could make this look like a suicide? It would be on the record that him and Rita were taking marriage classes and Mazuka saw her kissing Elliot so if he tried really hard he could paint her as confused and depressed and generally unhappy.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09130711642386374186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-69898342494605700502009-12-17T00:40:55.587-05:002009-12-17T00:40:55.587-05:00I have a hard time seeing the Deb of the series kn...I have a hard time seeing the Deb of the series knowing Dexter's a killer and not turning him in. She'd have to have a serious trauma to cover up Dex's true nature, but what could top being the Ice Truck Killer's kidnap victim or being shot by Trinity's daughter? I'd hate to see them try to top those and put her through more misery.<br /><br />OTOH, I *really* want her to find out and NOT turn him in. Like in the books. It could work, maybe, I think...I hope!deznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72338272504159571042009-12-17T00:07:11.236-05:002009-12-17T00:07:11.236-05:00nyactor, please repeat after me: "Deb and Dex...nyactor, please repeat after me: "Deb and Dexter will not get over the "brother/sister thing" because they are - brother and sister!"<br /><br />As someone pointed out to me, Dexter won't be training a kid to kill to keep audiences - they want a likable character. If he goes with his sister like Batista and Leguerta...they'll lose much of the audience, that's not right - brother and sister I mean. Lets keep it real.<br /><br />What will probably happen is this:<br />kids go away, Quinn thinks Dexter killed his wife, Deb supports him but does not find out (not the book after all, its the show), and Dexter continues to kill people. Out of all the directions they can go, this is the most likely.<br /><br />No child training, no "on the run" series because, well come on, who runs away successfully from the cops, it's not possible. Would have been interesting if Deb figured it out, but I think they're afraid that it won't go successfully.<br /><br />Either way, Season 5 will either be boring (because it'll be the same as the other ones), or will be interesting. If they make a mistake, it may even fail. Hopefully they make the right call.Intergalacticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-15328486368216734872009-12-16T23:44:52.858-05:002009-12-16T23:44:52.858-05:00Dexter is still one of the best dramas on TV, but ...Dexter is still one of the best dramas on TV, but season 4 was easily the worse season so far of it's existence. The writing just wasn't as good as past seasons. The first two seasons were exceptional, and season 3 was much better than season 4 imho.<br /><br />The shocking ending to the season finale didn't redeem what I thought was a lacklustre season. The finale was ho-hum until that ending.<br /><br />I've like Julie Benz since she was on "Angel", but I'm glad they got rid of character (though I suppose we'll still see her next season ala Harry scenes). She was beyond annoying at this point. Her character had run it's course.<br /><br />I echo what many have said here regarding the writers needing to address the implications of Rita's murder. One theory I've read is that some think perhaps Dexter will try to cover up Rita's murder. It'll be very interesting to see how they handle this.Kujohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10078809694509169496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79470557684217098682009-12-16T17:57:59.592-05:002009-12-16T17:57:59.592-05:00Great season and I thought for a second that they ...Great season and I thought for a second that they might hold Lithgow over to next season with maybe a cliffhanger b/c he's been so awesome.<br /><br />Since MCH & Jennifer Carpenter are married, it makes sense that they are now at show's end:<br /><br />-Both Single<br />-Both more messed up than ever<br />Plus letting Dexter know about Laura Moser + saying HOW IMPORTANT<br />he is to her..<br /><br />I see Deb moving in or maybe they all move somewhere else so she can help Dexter with the kids. Possibly Astor & Cody go live with their grandparents so they only have to deal with Harrison. <br /><br />Deb and Dexter aren't biologically related so I think they'll wind up together and bypass the brother/sister thing...probably keep it a secret like Batista/Laguerta did.<br /><br />Deb is a good detective and won't keep buying Dexter's crap while living with him. She'd actually follow Dexter in a car while he goes on a "kill". I think she'll discover what Dex does on her own and wrestle with what to do with it. She may very well cover/help Dexter without his knowledge at first and then together?<br /><br />I wonder if Dexter will just spill it all about Harry's code, everything that's happened, etc<br /><br />Should be an awesome season that might not have a season character to deal with b/c all the focus will be on Dexter...<br /><br />Dex wouldn't be able to get rid<br />of Rita's body off his boat...<br />--He might change things around so it looked like an accident<br /><br />Or does everyone think he'll leave it as is? Maybe even call Deb in for help?<br /><br />They've been setting up the whole QUINN on Dexter's ass all season<br />which will have to end badly for Quinn next season...I think.<br />Dexter might have to kill Quinn and it'll leave Deb wrestling with what to do?!<br /><br />I'd love one episode focused on Masuka..just do it!!!<br /><br />Love the show!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17610531282852361705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-32091888301507594542009-12-16T05:02:04.642-05:002009-12-16T05:02:04.642-05:00It's amazing to consider how many times Dexter...It's amazing to consider how many times Dexter could have prevented Rita's death: <br /><br />- if he had strangled the unconscious Trinity in the car at the bank garage (before he was arrested).<br /><br />- If he had avoided getting arrested and come back to kill him before he woke up and escaped.<br /><br />- If he had taken a second to chop his head off with that shovel before diving in to recuse the kid from the cement grave.<br /><br />- If he had killed him at the Thanksgiving dinner after he attacked his son.<br /><br />- If he had simply let the guy commit suicide when he jumped off the roof!<br /><br />- If he had killed him when they were staying together at that Tampa hotel.<br /><br />- If he had killed him with the ax when he killed the deer.<br /><br />- If he had killed him with the chain saw when they were cutting down the tree.<br /><br />- Or, better yet, if he had simply turned him in to the police when he first found out that the Trinity Killer was Arthur Mitchell.<br /><br />But no, HE wanted to be the one to kill him, so he misled the police, framed innocent men, got Kyle killed, almost got the boy in cement killed, endangered his sister (Trinity came to her apartment - she was lucky to have been gone at the time), and eventually got his wife murdered by the guy he deliberately kept out of prison for weeks.<br /><br />Talk about your major f**k-ups...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-14951497728099547762009-12-16T04:45:41.557-05:002009-12-16T04:45:41.557-05:00No, Dexter will not abandon his kids. But the wri...No, Dexter will not abandon his kids. But the writers will still find a way to write them out of the picture. It's not that hard. Paul's parents can earn custody of his kids, arguing that Dexter, as a full-time police employee, can't give them the time they need. The same argument might be made by Rita's mother to claim the baby. Or, if they get desperate enough, they can simply kill the baby. Newborn babies die of natural causes all the time, including unexplained crib deaths. But the bottom line is that if the writers want to get the kids out of the picture, they can do it.<br /><br />Don't think for a moment that the writers are planning to have Dexter train any of the kids to be a serial killer. Repeat after me: "The Dexter in the TV series is not the same Dexter in the books."<br /><br />The writers have gone out of their way to make TV Dexter a much more likeable, much more human character. <br /><br />The reason is simple: they want to keep their audience.<br /><br />That's why they changed his style of murder from what was initially very grissly torture murders (most likely dismembering his victims while they were still alive), to very clean, swift kills with a single stroke. They want audiences to like Dexter, to root for him, and most audiences would find that hard to do if he was as cold and sadistic as the character in the book.<br /><br />And that goes double for his behavior around kids. Audiences would bail on this series like passengers off the Titanic if they had Dexter training a baby to chop people into pieces. Trust me, it won't happen. The bloody ending was just a tease, an interesting twist. And it worked as that, but it's as far as it will go.<br /><br />Dexter himself remarked, when Harrison was getting shots, that he was too young to remember any of it. The same goes for his mom's death. He would completely forget it. Dexter was a significantly older child at the time of his mother's death, and she was chain-sawed into pieces, a much more horrible thing to behold than Trinity's quiet bathtub killings.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74817045688123240822009-12-16T03:15:44.510-05:002009-12-16T03:15:44.510-05:00Deb should find out about Dexter, and either Cody ...Deb should find out about Dexter, and either Cody or the baby should become Dexter's protege. <br /><br />It will be difficult to pull off, but I think most will agree that it will make the series interesting. A hard role for Cody of 11 years, yes, but not impossible; he could pull off a convincing performance I'm sure. As for Deb and Dexter, Michael C. Hall can carry it all by himself. As long as they look to the book for guidance it'll turn out well. <br /><br />Who doesn't want Deb to become privy to Dexter's secret?Intergalacticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-58893833227770623282009-12-16T02:52:08.220-05:002009-12-16T02:52:08.220-05:00http://tv.ign.com/articles/105/1055468p1.html
Ign...http://tv.ign.com/articles/105/1055468p1.html<br /><br />Ign.com just reported that the showrunner for the last four seasons is being replaced. I guess that means that all those hints and loose strings at the end of season 4 may now have nothing to do with season 5. There's a new sheriff in town.Eldritchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02247921343535184791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-69184277154168656422009-12-15T19:38:02.507-05:002009-12-15T19:38:02.507-05:00Remember, Dexter kills because it is a compulsion,...<i>Remember, Dexter kills because it is a compulsion, the code was designed to allow him to satisfy that compulsion without killing the innocent and, most importantly, not get caught. <b>So no matter what, Dexter has to kill.</b></i><br /><br />I disagree. No matter what, Dexter has to not get caught. that's what the code is all about and watching Dexter toy with the idea of teaching his son (while getting flashbacks of Dexter's own training) would be good for the show IMO. I've always been fascinated with the scenes that show Dexter learning how to take someone down or what mistakes not to make.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00554357451402958050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-37018311008924956612009-12-15T17:50:49.505-05:002009-12-15T17:50:49.505-05:00Why do so many people seem to want this show to be...Why do so many people seem to want this show to become about Dexter training little kids to become serial killers? I can't imagine a more boring show. 11 episodes of Cody killing cats and squirrels before finally getting to pull the respirator on an old lady in the season finale. Wake me when that's over.<br /><br />This show is about Dexter, a serial killer that kills bad people. It began to lose its way when it became a show about a serial killer who kills bad people and tries to have a normal family life. That is just melodrama. I'll watch Lifetime channel if I want to see the difficulties of relationships and parenthood. <br /><br />Next season Dexter needs to either be on the run or in constant fear of being revealed as a result of all the mistakes he made this season. And while he is on the run, he still has to satiate his dark passenger. Remember, Dexter kills because it is a compulsion, the code was designed to allow him to satisfy that compulsion without killing the innocent and, most importantly, not get caught. So no matter what, Dexter has to kill. <br /><br />That is the show I want to see next season. Dexter is not a good guy. He is psycopath. Abandon the kids, be a loner. Entertain us!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4075825361992704432009-12-15T16:58:27.298-05:002009-12-15T16:58:27.298-05:00Anonymous said: I understand where the writers are...Anonymous said: <i>I understand where the writers are coming from, but this ending leaves some huge plot holes.<br /><br />1) Arthur appeared in the police station talking to Dexter? None of the cops noticed? Unikely.<br /><br />2) How is Dexter going to explain how his wife just happened to be a victim of the Trinity killer? Although I know this show is fictional - and there has to be some suspension of disbelief - this seems a bridge too far. And won't his picture be on the TV news and be seen by Trinity's family? </i><br /><br /><br />1.) You're expecting these cops to be really alert and on top of their game? Since season 1 it has been portrayed that they aren't really that great at their job. They are constantly getting things wrong and Dexter always seems to be a step ahead of them. Also, like others have said: there was a lot of activitity going on and they thought they had their suspect. <br /><br />2.) Perhaps it will be thought of as a suicide? Maybe they could say its coincidence. Maybe Dexter will be a suspect? We won't know until next season, so I hope you're right and the writers do explain it somewhat.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771599140623727130noreply@blogger.com