tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post7625377391785522300..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Sopranos Rewind: Kennedy and HeidiAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-52192286241053185102007-05-19T16:41:00.000-04:002007-05-19T16:41:00.000-04:00Anonymous said: "I'm always wrong w/ this show......Anonymous said: "I'm always wrong w/ this show....which is one of the reasons I love it."<BR/><BR/>Me too!<BR/><BR/>A life for a life: Don't forget that Christopher has also re-chosen the gangster life and re-made his bones by shooting his substitute AA sponsor in the forehead for being cold and unsympathetic -- a scene as funny as it was horrifying.ambahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12042450225428891273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79087717233553873632007-05-17T17:24:00.000-04:002007-05-17T17:24:00.000-04:00"Isn't it late fall 2007 in Sopraonland? The pool ..."Isn't it late fall 2007 in Sopraonland? The pool is covered, leaves are falling, and Tony's betting on the Jets." <BR/><BR/>To my knowledge the Peurto Rican Pride parade, where AJ was dumped, is in JulyJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319482110710306123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-55562685407341504942007-05-17T17:20:00.000-04:002007-05-17T17:20:00.000-04:00you right ironheart, I'll be very dissapointed too...you right ironheart, I'll be very dissapointed too, but Vegas seemed to spooky for me to believe it was real, I think there has to be some sort of unexpectedness to the entire trip we'll understand next week.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319482110710306123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45436167408859526722007-05-17T14:32:00.000-04:002007-05-17T14:32:00.000-04:00Good thoughts, Joe. However, I think I'll be disap...Good thoughts, Joe. However, I think I'll be disappointed if things turn out to be a dream or vision. Being at the end of the series as we are, I'd like the time to be spend detailing what happens in the real world of the series, even if it is jarring and unpleasant.Kevin J. Guhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083029903958433797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-58770723161633665432007-05-17T12:57:00.000-04:002007-05-17T12:57:00.000-04:00Tony is descending into heaven/hell or in a ComaAf...Tony is descending into heaven/hell or in a Coma<BR/><BR/>After the car accident, Chris was dead, but did Tony REALLY walk away from the accident with nothing but a few bruises on the face? After the vehicle flips 7 maybe 8 times maybe 1500 feet from the road, Tony really isn’t in critical condition? many people question Tony’s motive for killing Chris. Tony suspects something of Chris (drug use) as he stares at him in the car, blasting Pink Floyd’s comfortably numb “I cannot put my finger on it now./The child is grown, the dream is gone./I have become comfortably numb.” (The same song Tony is singing as he walks down the steps of his house in ‘Chasing it’. Chris admits he can’t pass a drug test as Tony gets up and sees his opportunity to dispose of Chris, the man who was apparently a tremendous drag on Tony’s emotions ... on his thoughts about the future, a weak, fucking sniveling, lying drug addict, the “biggest blunder” of Tony’s career. Tony goes so far to say that every morning Tony would wake up thinking, "Is today the day one of my best friends is gonna dime me to the FBI?" Tony’s grown colder than ever and reveals the paranoid, selfish monster he has become by making sure Christopher dies. Tony has plenty of time to call Carmella after the accident but doesn’t. By the time they reached the wreck, and Tony is in the hospital it must have been well over an hour he doesn’t inform Carm. Then the hospital calls the house for Tony (symbolic?). Later on at the wake Tony won’t go up to pray over his nephew, and twice says he’ll go up later, which, to our knowledge, he never does. At the wake Tony says to Carm. "I'll go up later, save my seat for someone else". I don’t think he’s talking about the wake. At little Anthony’s psychiatrist session the doctor asks how he’s handling it, not specifically mentioning what or whom. Just before Tony’s trip or journey to what we and Tony believe is Vegas, he is watching the family speak about how sad death is, from up above on his balcony, again I believe very symbolic. Tony makes a call to his Vegas connect asking for a suite, for him, coming solo, which Alan responds: “We’ll see what we can do about that.” When ever Tony goes away, there is packing and preparation for it before hand, which he’s packing or Carmella does some for him, or some good bye’s this isn’t done. Tony doesn’t say good bye to his Carmella, AJ, medow or anyone for that matter. He doesn’t inform Sil or any of the others he’s going to be away either about his journey to, what I believe is his after life, not Vegas. First it is extremely uncharacteristic of Tony to leave alone, he isn’t one to go by himself, but with that aside, does anybody notice what he is wearing on the plane? He’s wearing a considerable eloquent suit. Tony doesn’t travel dressed like that, he normally looks like a bum, with Hawaiian shirt and wife beaters on. I can’t come up with a good reason why he would leave the area at this time. He isn’t grieving over Chris and just lost the money Chris would be bringing in. What we are to believe is that he is upset with everyone because they are grieving which makes him feel like a hypocrite. Does Tony REALLY skip Chris’s funeral? Nucci’s as well? Doesn’t seem logical to me. Going out to Vegas, which he mention him self he rarely does, is not just dumb, but unsafe. If Phil, the only one happier than Tony that Chris is dead, was aware of Tony being away, especially alone, he would have done something major back home or had Tony killed out in Vegas. Tony simply would be making a mistake if he actually was in Vegas. Tony does occasional gambling but not before this season has he made big bets every week. Personally, I don’t believe that he has the pull to be sent out there on a private jet, shrimp cocktail, red wine etc. Symbolically there was no one else shown on the plane, not pilot, no waitress, not stewardess. Tony then looks out at the world from above. Tony then eats dinner there completely alone, and doesn’t say a word to anyone in Vegas until he finds Sonya. Once there, Tony indulges in all of Chris’s pleasures of drugs, and even one of his women. When Tony goes to see Sonya, to inform of Chris’s death, she asks how long he’ll be staying, which Tony replies with he isn’t sure we’ll see how it plays out (something along those lines. This response is eerily similar to that of when he is in the coma at the beginning of the season and is asked the same question. Also during the Cosa Messa trip Tony is near hell with all the brush fires. While taking the Peyote, he is surrounded by candles (fire). After taking peyote with the beautiful stripper, Sonya, he suddenly is vomiting (much like he would be in a coma) and then stares at the bathroom light (hospital light anyone? Maybe symbol of heaven?). The two make their way down to the casino, stoned, where Tony is fixated on an image of a smiling devil, (Hell?). When entering the casino the only readable slot machine reads "pompei" city of Italy that was destroyed by Mount Vesuvius volcano, than begins gambling. Tony is winning every bet he makes, and winning big. Again looking back at “Chasing It”, Tony who is every upset with Carlo for not running the construction job as profitably as Vito was, cuts him off while talking about a twilight zone episode with a thug named valentine. Apparently referring to episode 28 of the twilight zone, “A Nice Place to Visit”. It is about a thug named Rocky Valentine who is shot and killed. He later awakes in an afterlife that he assumes is heaven, where he is granted every wish. He has every woman, everyone thinks he’s wonderful and every bet placed is a winner. Valentine becomes very bored of this and asks to be sent to the “other place” (referring to hell) only to be told “This is the other place.” Tony very similarly is winning every bet and has a beautiful girl with him. Lastly the Sun over the canyon must have significance as well. It shimmers just before Tony “Gets it”. Possibly heaven, possibly a light from a doctor over the coma-ridden boss.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319482110710306123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-15300373150644860902007-05-17T12:25:00.000-04:002007-05-17T12:25:00.000-04:00Tony's time as Kevin Finnerty during his coma was ...Tony's time as Kevin Finnerty during his coma was a borng existence. I think Tony was actually in purgatory during his coma. He was being given an opportunity to turn things around, which he initially started to do when he came out of his coma. I think the flashing light he kept seeing during the coma represented Hell, waiting ominously in the distance if he went further down his current path. Tony eventually did go further down that path by killing Christopher and at the end of this week's episode, he was in a more hellish place (the desert) and the flashing light was a lot closer. He "got it;" he chose hell and he's okay with that. He's going to do what he needs to do to protect himself for now on and there will be no more feelings getting in the way. Granted, I suspect that something's going to happen to his wife and kids and he's going to have a turnaround in thought, although probably too late.Kevin J. Guhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083029903958433797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19857064935121503162007-05-16T23:23:00.000-04:002007-05-16T23:23:00.000-04:00^ I entertained that idea briefly, but then though...^ I entertained that idea briefly, but then thought Chase would never do that. Unless this season really is a big "FU" from the writers to the fans like one of my friends believes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-9656810372852533812007-05-16T21:35:00.000-04:002007-05-16T21:35:00.000-04:00Who thinks Tony is already dead or in a coma on hi...Who thinks Tony is already dead or in a coma on his way to his death?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319482110710306123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-24724899375655535722007-05-16T21:34:00.000-04:002007-05-16T21:34:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319482110710306123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64881571842004989572007-05-16T18:35:00.000-04:002007-05-16T18:35:00.000-04:00Seeing Tony win at roulette, his game of choice, r...Seeing Tony win at roulette, his game of choice, reminds me of another kind of roulette that Tony is winning at.<BR/><BR/>What I can't figure out is why he was losing at roulette at the beginning of his stay - was it because he was holding on to guilt? <BR/><BR/>While I'm here, does all of Tony's crew seeing him in a weakened state twice this season (including the Junior storyline) mean anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4861313268213368742007-05-16T01:03:00.000-04:002007-05-16T01:03:00.000-04:00I had a (bad) boyfriend in college who loved Pink ...I had a (bad) boyfriend in college who loved Pink Floyd. He'd get hammered and smoke pot and then listen to Comfortably Numb. I hate that song and everything it stands for. It is perfect to me that it was part of Tony's journey to hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-48691568573566522682007-05-15T22:09:00.000-04:002007-05-15T22:09:00.000-04:00You know, part of me feels that getting us to sudd...You know, part of me feels that getting us to suddenly hate Tony by turning him into a different character is all a big cop-out. It would have been better if Tony remained the criminal with some positive traits that viewers liked and then was brought down at the end, likely by his own flaws. That would have packed more emotion compared to people wanting him to die for being an utter bastard.Kevin J. Guhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083029903958433797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-76822884274967984142007-05-15T22:08:00.000-04:002007-05-15T22:08:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kevin J. Guhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083029903958433797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11483784041870841102007-05-15T19:24:00.000-04:002007-05-15T19:24:00.000-04:00^ I thought it was someone chauffeuring Tony aroun...^ I thought it was someone chauffeuring Tony around town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-91342996332700118372007-05-15T18:41:00.000-04:002007-05-15T18:41:00.000-04:00Something that has not been brought up but still h...Something that has not been brought up but still has me wondering….<BR/><BR/>There was a scene while Tony was in Las Vegas of someone driving in a car around town, and they seemed to be in a hurry. The driver is clearly wearing glasses so it was not Tony. <BR/><BR/>Who was this? <BR/><BR/>Shortly after this scene, the showed Tony wandering down the hotel hallway. The scene created a sense of foreboding and I was on the edge of my seat thinking Tony was in imminent danger as he approached Sonya's hotel room and the door was ajar…almost like he was walking into a setup.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-49898005237546984522007-05-15T16:11:00.000-04:002007-05-15T16:11:00.000-04:00Kennedy and Heidi are the two girls at the acciden...Kennedy and Heidi are the two girls at the accident scene. They too are comfortably numb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-47947022984657732552007-05-15T11:30:00.000-04:002007-05-15T11:30:00.000-04:00I kinda love that some people heard "I did it!!" (...I kinda love that some people heard "I did it!!" (me, <A HREF="http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-ontv15may15,0,3085468.story?coll=cl-tv-features" REL="nofollow">Paul Brownfield in the LA Times</A>, some of you), and other people heard "I get it!!"<BR/><BR/>Some might see that as a bit of an unintentional (or is it?) Rorschach test on how much we identify with what Tony did.<BR/><BR/>Also, how funny was it that even in death, Christopher was still in a rivalry with Paulie?barefootjimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02619403344304134318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72534273999940212812007-05-14T23:54:00.000-04:002007-05-14T23:54:00.000-04:00I know that Chrissy and T are on the outs ever sin...<I>I know that Chrissy and T are on the outs ever since the incident with Ade, but still .. whatever happened to "trust only blood". </I><BR/><BR/>The same "blood" who tried to shoot Tony? It's a miracle Chrissy lasted as long as he did. He'd been on borrowed time for ages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74652605279500137772007-05-14T22:18:00.000-04:002007-05-14T22:18:00.000-04:00Kennedy and Heidi were the names of the two girls ...Kennedy and Heidi were the names of the two girls who Chris almost hit before veering off the road. <BR/><BR/>The DirecTV description noted that "someone upstages Paulie" in this episode, which has to be the plot understatement of the year. <BR/><BR/>Good summary tonight, Alan. I am thrilled this show is as unpredictable as ever.steviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393736134087496533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-87030453015265302007-05-14T20:39:00.000-04:002007-05-14T20:39:00.000-04:00As per the idea of "Cleaver" mirroring "real life"...As per the idea of "Cleaver" mirroring "real life" on the show - while Chris won't likely come back from the dead, it is possible that something about him will come back to haunt Tony. Maybe Chris snitched to the feds and, this time, they have enough to build a case despite the rat's death.Kevin J. Guhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083029903958433797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-62465274128160397022007-05-14T19:05:00.000-04:002007-05-14T19:05:00.000-04:00i recently went back to watch Funhouse. The contra...i recently went back to watch Funhouse. The contrast between Season 2 Tony and Season 6.2 Tony is really amazing. In that episode, T is so conflicted with killing his best friend turned snitch. Whereas here, he's happy to do kill his surrogate son who he has no proof of being guilty of snitching (remember how important it was to Tony to find proof of Big Pussy's guilt in season 1/2). I know that Chrissy and T are on the outs ever since the incident with Ade, but still .. whatever happened to "trust only blood". <BR/><BR/>If it was Paulie in Chrissy's place in the car accident, would the outcome have been the same? In other words, did T only resist killing him on the boat in "Remember When" only because what others would say if he did (see: Syl and associate discussing T's possible involvement in Ralphie's mysterious disappearance in Strong Silent Type).Udayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567802024888775599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-89157921953979105432007-05-14T18:59:00.000-04:002007-05-14T18:59:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Udayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08567802024888775599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-80888058408046780722007-05-14T18:19:00.000-04:002007-05-14T18:19:00.000-04:00Homertojeebus...Interesting point... Now that Chri...Homertojeebus...<BR/><BR/>Interesting point... Now that Chris is dead, how much of his "Cleaver" script will ring true, life imitating art? Chris was murdered by the boss of the family, like his character. Tony is of course haunted by this, despite the fact that he thinks a weight has been lifted. Even the dump truck makes a cameo. When the dust settles, Christopher's murder will be the act which really, truly pushes T over the edge and eliminates any possibility of redemption. <BR/><BR/>In fact, Tony is already dead. Chase and Co. don't need to kill him off at the end, they dont need him incarcerated, and they can leave his prostate alone, to boot. He has poisoned every aspect of his life, and with it any ideals he may have been stringing on to. Each character's turn this season has been an opportunity for Tony to make sure he drags as many of his friends into the muck with him, and he finally resolved his downward spiral with the murder of his surrogate son. <BR/><BR/> This is Tony's death. The trip to Vegas, simply a reminder to us that he had a chance to change his course and instead fell back into old ways. All he can do now is watch the buildings crumble around him, whether they fall literally or figuratively. <BR/><BR/><BR/>I never liked the Cleaver plotline much, in fact I thought it was one of the few mis-steps we've seen from The Sopranos in the past few seasons. Still, that it sets itself up as a parallel for events yet to play out is enough to make it seem much more clever in retrospect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19864422170397989222007-05-14T17:00:00.000-04:002007-05-14T17:00:00.000-04:00Great Episode. I'm not even gonna guess anything ...Great Episode. I'm not even gonna guess anything that happens next because I'm always wrong w/ this show....which is one of the reasons I love it.<BR/><BR/>The ending song last night with a still peyote trippin' Tony in the desert, "Minas De Cobre (for better metal)" by one of my fave bands, Calexico, is one of the top two music placements ever. The other one would be Tim Buckley's gorgeous version of "Dolphins" which they played during Christopher's return to heroin @ the street carnival last season. I've never tried heroin but I felt like I was high on it during that scene. Last night they nailed Tony's first peyote experience and I think we all felt the high. This is beyond just great television. - Dr. Hund, ColoradoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74642468384638071862007-05-14T16:35:00.000-04:002007-05-14T16:35:00.000-04:00Did anyone else notice that Van Morrison songs (Co...Did anyone else notice that Van Morrison songs (Comfortably Numb/Glad Tidings) backdroppped both Chris' death and Tony B's death? <BR/><BR/>My suggestion to A.J would be: Don't listen to any "Brown Eyed Girl"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com