tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post8134092179357499626..comments2024-03-19T03:23:06.738-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Lost, "There's No Place Like Home, Pt. 2 & 3": Dude, where's my island?Alan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger167125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-63550203015426302632008-06-09T16:15:00.000-04:002008-06-09T16:15:00.000-04:00I don't know. I have rather mixed feelings about ...I don't know. I have rather mixed feelings about the finale, just as I have mixed feelings about the season. There are some aspects of it that I found contrived. Yet, it had its good moments. It's probably the least satisfying of the four finales. At least for me.<BR/><BR/>I gave it a "6".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-14600247125003667792008-06-06T00:15:00.000-04:002008-06-06T00:15:00.000-04:00great review.the general consensus seems to be it ...great review.<BR/>the general consensus seems to be it was a disappointing episode but i tend to disagree. things were wrapped up, some good some bad but it was necessary to answer these things before painting the obvious future scenario in the final scene otherwise it could have got confusing. i can understand peoples disappointment though.<BR/><BR/>what im interested to see is whether Locke has to go back in the wheelchair when he gets back to the mainland to talk to jack. some of the theories that he's NOT dead but its a set-up with ben to get everyone back also intrigue me. <BR/><BR/>soooo long to wait though.Javid van der Piepershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323042524326059203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-305631646015440312008-06-02T20:53:00.000-04:002008-06-02T20:53:00.000-04:00Did they ever explain why Naomi had that photo of ...Did they ever explain why Naomi had that photo of Desmond and Penny? Did Widmore give it to her because he suspected Desmond was on the island (if so, how did he get the photo from Penny)? Or was Naomi a double-agent and secretly working for Penny?<BR/><BR/>I'm sure that we'll be seeing more of Desmond and Penny in the future:<BR/>1. Ben wants to find and kill Penny<BR/>2. Widmore wants to find Penny (Sun says that the O6 weren't the only ones to leave the island)<BR/>3. Desmond is Farraday's constant (I think Daniel was drawn into the timewarp when the island "moved" but will emerge at a different point)<BR/>4. The island may need Desmond to return along with the O6 and Walt.<BR/><BR/>DarrenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85151305091555325202008-06-01T21:43:00.000-04:002008-06-01T21:43:00.000-04:00over 100 posts, so maybe someone else has theorize...over 100 posts, so maybe someone else has theorized this: That's not Claire's voice. That's Claire talking in Kate's voice. I've rewatched that scene a dozen times, I'm pretty sure that's Kate's voice.JMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16527612988543040489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-60550529054844808412008-06-01T20:02:00.000-04:002008-06-01T20:02:00.000-04:00This episode explains Charlotte's "pen name" (Char...This episode explains Charlotte's "pen name" (Charlotte Staples Lewis, a/k/a C. S. Lewis) being a reference to the author of the Narnia books. IIRC, those books dealt with children returning to a magical place after a period of time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64546415006488473692008-06-01T15:18:00.000-04:002008-06-01T15:18:00.000-04:00Yet another theory on who Charlotte is.I don't lik...Yet another theory on who Charlotte is.<BR/><BR/>I don't like the theory on her being Annie. She's clearly younger than she should be thought that could be explained away with some time travel while leaving the island. <BR/><BR/>The accent though... she was too old to have developed the accent so thoroughly.<BR/><BR/>So here is who Charlotte actually is: Annie's daughter. Possibly Ben's biological daughter. When Annie got off the island to give birth there was a screwup with the time/space what-have-you and Annie went back in time, maybe ten to fifteen years. She settled in england and raised Charlotte as a proper British girl. Charlotte has heard bits and pieces about the island, knows she originated there in some sense, knows about Dharma and wants to get back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67327829103810657812008-06-01T14:22:00.000-04:002008-06-01T14:22:00.000-04:00just got around now to the finale. first off, mic...just got around now to the finale. first off, michael is deader than dead. and even if he wasn't supposed to be, he will be after this ridiculous interview:<BR/><BR/>http://www.tvguide.com/news/lost-harold-perrineau/080530-03<BR/><BR/>what a tool. what a classless way to go out. this show made his career and that's how grateful he is.<BR/><BR/>anyway, i'm also confused why keamy was set to blow up a boat full of his own people and maybe desmond & sayid. not to mention how a station that is so "deep" can still transmit that far. kind of a silly plot contrivance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-80327974732418352912008-06-01T14:03:00.000-04:002008-06-01T14:03:00.000-04:00Wow, I just found something cool, a connection I h...Wow, I just found something cool, a connection I have not yet heard about. I was reading the Wikipedia article on Stevie Ray Vaughn and came across this passage: <BR/><BR/>-Double Trouble drummer, Chris Layton, recalls his last conversation with Vaughan backstage. He then remembers Vaughan saying he had to call his girlfriend, Janna Lapidus, in Chicago, before heading out the door to the helicopters, which had been arranged for flight (through Omni Flights) by Skip Rickert, Double Trouble's tour manager.<BR/><BR/>Of course, Stevie Ray would soon die in a helicopter accident. Could be total coincidence, but I thought it odd that anything associated with a helicopter be connected to that name. Take it for what you will.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02007552111156928356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-22908810676845424462008-05-31T23:13:00.000-04:002008-05-31T23:13:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873413458524688191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-19792806461607217512008-05-31T23:00:00.000-04:002008-05-31T23:00:00.000-04:00I can't believe the poster who thought that this w...I can't believe the poster who thought that this was a better episode than the Looking Glass. First of all, Charlie's death has to count as one of the two or three most significant aspects of this show, and the final scene with Jack and Kate was absolutely devastating. At the end of that episode, I couldn't believe that we were going to have to wait almost a year to find out what happened. This year, the writers telegraphed all of their punches, so there really weren't any big reveals. I still enjoy the series, but I thought that this year jumped the shark during the episode when Michael couldn't kill himself. The writer's strike probably had a lot to do with this, but there was a lot of slapdash writing this season. Look how casually they killed off Rousseau -- they just treated her like a red shirt. You have two seasons left -- don't screw it up, guys...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-77783877813119864072008-05-31T21:25:00.000-04:002008-05-31T21:25:00.000-04:00Kevin said... Since the only way on or off the isl...Kevin said... <I>Since the only way on or off the island is by going in one very precise direction, can we assume that Sawyer had a compass with him while swimming for his life?</I><BR/><BR/>Unnecessary, really. Frank was almost certainly flying out on that bearing, so if Sawyer swam in a straight line back, he'd be on that bearing.<BR/><BR/>Jim said... <I>So, what of the time lag phenomenon? Juliet is watching the destruction of the boat in real time (presumably), so, the time curve was, at that moment, flattened, is that right? Or had the boat moved closer to the island's mojo so that this was no longer an issue?</I><BR/><BR/>If we assume the time wonkiness doesn't affect radio waves (e.g. the sat-phones, the dead-mans-switch on Keany), it's likely they don't affect light as well. Both are electromagnetic waves, just the frequency differs.<BR/><BR/>Michael said... <I>Didn't anyone catch the commercial for Octagon Global Recruiting near the end of the show? Their national recruitment drive is this summer in San Diego in July, which - what a coincidence! - is the same dates as the Comic-Con.</I><BR/><BR/>Yep. I assume this was the first part of another Lost ARG like the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Experience" REL="nofollow">Lost Experience</A> or <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Find_815" REL="nofollow">Find 815</A>.afogliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820361829972093800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88855095118972855592008-05-31T19:38:00.000-04:002008-05-31T19:38:00.000-04:00Does anyone disagree with this reasoning?I want Ji...<I>Does anyone disagree with this reasoning?</I><BR/><BR/>I want Jin to be alive, so I'm all for your reasoning :-)<BR/><BR/>I thought it was a pretty good ep for a season finale. I wasn't surprised by Locke being the one in the coffin since I'd already figured it was him, and I am also curious as to why the O6 wouldn't call him Locke when they were alone. Perhaps they feel they're still under the gaze of the panopticon? If so, who do they think is watching them? Ben? Widmore? Jacob? The island?<BR/><BR/>"Time-traveling bunnies" is going to make me giggle for a long time go come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-18387012467304222512008-05-31T17:16:00.000-04:002008-05-31T17:16:00.000-04:00Thanks Alan! That clears up quite a few things ac...Thanks Alan! That clears up quite a few things actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45762397965757904412008-05-31T16:53:00.000-04:002008-05-31T16:53:00.000-04:00Rich, every year, Carlton and Lindelof give a spec...Rich, every year, Carlton and Lindelof give a special codename to the final scene or scenes of each finale so they can discuss it in general without giving stuff away. One year it was "the bagel," another year "the challah," last year was "the snake in the mailbox," and this year it was "frozen donkey wheel." It's just the first time that the codename has referred to something that was actually in the episode (albeit not the scene in question).Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-24927450240825115252008-05-31T16:39:00.000-04:002008-05-31T16:39:00.000-04:00Could someone explain what the "FDW comments" are?...Could someone explain what the "FDW comments" are? I understand what the literally-frozen donkey-wheel was (although when it was first on screen, I thought it was a ship's steering wheel. Ben: "Don't make me turn this island around!")<BR/>I'm confused regarding what about the funeral parlor makes those scenes into a Frozen Donkey Wheel. (I'm assuming it's in a podcast or spoiler post, or something?)<BR/>Thanks for the help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-50207952974626567082008-05-31T12:14:00.000-04:002008-05-31T12:14:00.000-04:00Am I the only one to think that Sun and Penny have...Am I the only one to think that Sun and Penny have teamed up to take down Ben and Widmore?<BR/><BR/>A bunch of folks were bitching about where Sun could have gotten the funds to buy a controlling interest in Paik, Penny seems like a good source.<BR/><BR/>I think we have 3 factions going off island.<BR/><BR/>Ben who wants to get back and hurt Widmore (but not kill because they are each other's constants)<BR/><BR/>Widmore who is obsessed with controlling the island and it's "magic box"<BR/><BR/>and Desmond/Penny/O6 working to undermine Ben and Widmore, who have done their level best to destroy them all, and perhaps rescue the Sawyer, Juliet et al on the island.<BR/><BR/>On Juliet rum guzzling:<BR/>She is watching smoke rise from the explosion. The smoke would linger and there is no telling how long she was watching it. So it doesn't follow that there is a trouble with the time discrepancyTaleenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13465468178554091355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-70954049965192063162008-05-31T03:19:00.000-04:002008-05-31T03:19:00.000-04:00Fine. Go and ruin a perfectly good Doc Brown/Libya...<I>Fine. Go and ruin a perfectly good Doc Brown/Libyans reference with your accurate plot synopsis. See if I care.</I><BR/><BR/>I've always said I didn't want be "that guy," but as soon as I had the shot, I didn't hesitate; sorry about that. It was a good Doc Brown/Libyans reference, and I feel ashamed.pgillanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08627255978843800751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-63441669032775414452008-05-31T02:54:00.000-04:002008-05-31T02:54:00.000-04:00^That's what I thought happened to Keamy because I...^That's what I thought happened to Keamy because I'd forgotten about the bulletproof vest, d'oh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-82573801808391985392008-05-31T01:17:00.000-04:002008-05-31T01:17:00.000-04:00Maybe Locke will come back to life if they can get...Maybe Locke will come back to life if they can get his body back to the island. After all, his paralysis was cured the first time he arrived.JChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11251502182111287115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-63058002057933837022008-05-31T01:09:00.000-04:002008-05-31T01:09:00.000-04:00Don't know if someone mentioned this already, sinc...Don't know if someone mentioned this already, since this is an amazingly long thread.<BR/><BR/>Jin is definitely alive!!!<BR/><BR/>Here's my justification for that declaration.<BR/><BR/>Michael stayed in the belly of the ship to spray the last bit of liquid nitrogen, as Jin ran up to join Sun, and their unborn baby.<BR/><BR/>If Michael was kept alive by the island for a purpose, and Christian appears at that moment to say it's ok for him to go, then that purpose must have been to stall for time as Jin got off the ship.<BR/><BR/>Dramatically it would also have a certain symmetry that a father-to-be would be given a chance at life from a father who had never successfully fulfilled his responsiblities with his own son.<BR/><BR/>Does anyone disagree with this reasoning?Tony Dayoubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04632329277519635858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-51293048301502879092008-05-30T23:51:00.000-04:002008-05-30T23:51:00.000-04:00I don't think this has huge plot implications, but...<EM>I don't think this has huge plot implications, but I don't think Claire's lack of an accent was accidental.<BR/><BR/>When she said "Don't you Dare...." she really emphasized the R in Darrrre. The aussie accent would have made it sound more like Don't you 'day-uh'.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, probably little consequence.</EM><BR/><BR/>Well, maybe Jacob is an American. He's the mouthpiece for these apparitions, right? Although, as I recall, Eko's brother managed to hold onto his accent when he appeared. Still, it did seem pretty clearly intentional--it stood out to me when I saw it, and many other commenters have noted the same thing.<BR/><BR/>Although that time Claire was just a dream, not a "real" ghostly presence, so maybe it's a red herring.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06838789571620769843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42642655474032510982008-05-30T23:20:00.000-04:002008-05-30T23:20:00.000-04:00With respect to Charlotte's past on the island: I ...With respect to Charlotte's past on the island: I think Miles, the psychic medium, sensed she had been there in a past life. Remember when Richard visits a young John Locke and asks him to identify which item belongs to him? Richard was hoping Locke was the reincarnation of someone. (Someone from the Black Rock, maybe?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79785806318483333752008-05-30T23:15:00.000-04:002008-05-30T23:15:00.000-04:00I don't think this has huge plot implications, but...I don't think this has huge plot implications, but I don't think Claire's lack of an accent was accidental.<BR/><BR/>When she said "Don't you Dare...." she really emphasized the R in Darrrre. The aussie accent would have made it sound more like Don't you 'day-uh'.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, probably little consequence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11581622357616882982008-05-30T22:27:00.000-04:002008-05-30T22:27:00.000-04:00I know this has always been a problem on Lost and ...I know this has always been a problem on Lost and that the Nikki/Paulo controversy sealed it, but the continued treatment of the extras as complete non-entities is aggravating. Particularly bad was ignoring everyone on the freighter at the end, even the 815 survivors from Daniel's first raft trip. Why wasn't anyone and everyone trying to get on board the helicopter? If Jin had gotten up there faster, was he going to cut in front of someone else? If they would have had room for Jin, why didn't they load someone else on there?<BR/><BR/>I know it's kind of a silly complaint, but when they take it too far it just undercuts the immersive/realistic effect that Lost normally offers, even when there are time traveling bunnies involved.<BR/><BR/>I do like that Locke/Bentham died before he could tell the Oceanic Six a lot of details about what had happened. While the flash forwards were a great idea and generally used well, I agree with the sentiment that towards the end it was hard to build tension since we knew most of what would happen. It'll be nice to know very little about what's going to happen to the rest of the survivors on the island during the three years or what is involved in getting the Oceanic Six (plus change) back to the island.<BR/><BR/>Not only have Ben and Charlotte met, but he shot her in the chest! (with Karl's gun, and body armor saved the day yet again) So that adds an extra layer of irony if she's really Annie or her child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-10345798144838430372008-05-30T21:02:00.000-04:002008-05-30T21:02:00.000-04:00Were you watching the same show as the rest of us?...<I>Were you watching the same show as the rest of us? Wasn't the first episode back after the strike a Michael episode?</I><BR/><BR/>Well, you did not have to point out my error quite so rudely, but yes, I forgot that episode. Guess I did not find it that memorable. <BR/><BR/>(Though I checked on wiki and that was not actually the first episode back, which was that kick-ass one with Ben recruiting Sayid to be an assassin.)<BR/><BR/>Completely unrelated -- it is hilarious how people are now complaining about have too many answers and not enough mystery. I think there's plenty to speculate about and look forward to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com