tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post8155528572631783821..comments2024-03-25T19:18:14.047-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Lost, "LA X": Multi-taskingAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger190125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-918467009088407432011-07-16T03:33:51.196-04:002011-07-16T03:33:51.196-04:00I don't see why you're condemning Jack on ...I don't see why you're condemning Jack on the Jughead plan. One, the plan came from Daniel Faraday, not Jack. And although the bomb did not reset time, it got them back to the 21st century.<br /><br />As for Juliet's death, she would have survived if the Dharma people had not exposed the island's energy with that ridiculous hole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-68470139802832876662010-02-08T20:59:53.286-05:002010-02-08T20:59:53.286-05:00Who is The Economist?Who is The Economist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-9107559522017231762010-02-08T19:31:01.489-05:002010-02-08T19:31:01.489-05:00The Lost producers were on Jimmy Kimmel last Tuesd...The Lost producers were on Jimmy Kimmel last Tuesday and clearly stated that Locke is the smoke monster, but he is NOT the man in black. They also hinted that Jacob is not in Sayid...Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15183264143598991479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-78909682765093272042010-02-08T19:30:28.618-05:002010-02-08T19:30:28.618-05:00The Lost producers were on Jimmy Kimmel last Tuesd...The Lost producers were on Jimmy Kimmel last Tuesday and clearly stated that Locke is the smoke monster, but he is NOT the man in black. They also hinted that Jacob is not in Sayid...Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15183264143598991479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-7213299825160649962010-02-08T01:25:45.640-05:002010-02-08T01:25:45.640-05:00Iamcjs said:
LA X equals the main LA 10 we follow...Iamcjs said:<br /><br />LA X equals the main LA 10 we follow<br />this season to be in sideflashes: <br />Jack Kate Sayid Sun Hurley<br />the Oceanic six. PLUS<br />Jin Sawyer Locke Claire<br /><br />and yeah that's nine but aaron's still<br /> cooking although a mystery tenth <br />could be Dez Ben etc...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5250535906783472582010-02-07T09:39:08.819-05:002010-02-07T09:39:08.819-05:00Her name being "Sun Kwon" was always a m...Her name being "Sun Kwon" was always a mistake, though. Koreans don't do that; she would've kept her name when she got married. So it's not clear whether they're taking advantage of the new timeline to correct an old mistake, or if Sun and Jin are actually not married.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-63117564801852506742010-02-06T15:14:07.962-05:002010-02-06T15:14:07.962-05:00OK one more comment.
Just rewatched and the only ...OK one more comment.<br /><br />Just rewatched and the only year hints are a few looks at cell phones, which do seem rather 2004. I remember when they started the flash forwards it was the newer looking cell phones that really tipped people off.<br /><br />Also, way above someone asked whether the security guard calls Sun Mrs. Kwon or Miss Paik and it IS Miss Paik! I thought hey maybe they're actually traveling as business associates. There's no explicit mention of what their relationship is. Jin does tell her to button her sweater, but we all know what a patriarchal jerk he is before the Island, so maybe he'd say that to a female coworker too. Of course, he only ever started working for Paik so he could marry Sun, and working for Paik is what turned him into a patriarchal jerk, so...if they're not married, who knows how they ended up in this situation?christynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-69412091036458197602010-02-06T12:06:42.178-05:002010-02-06T12:06:42.178-05:00I said: "if you search for a non-stop flight ...I said: "if you search for a non-stop flight from SYD to LAX on 9/22/2010, you get Oceanic 815."<br /><br />Sorry, meant to also say that if you search ON KAYAK for those things. That was unintentionally vague.christynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74886222998311741102010-02-06T11:59:27.490-05:002010-02-06T11:59:27.490-05:00Only 181 comments!
Surprise--I have theories! Not...Only 181 comments!<br /><br />Surprise--I have theories! Nothing I've seen presented as such online yet, although I certainly haven't scoured all the message boards and blogs. (I've read this one, Tom and Lorenzo's, Mo Ryan's, Doc Jensen's, and plan to listen to the official podcast and Jorge Garcia's new podcast). But they did come together with help from little tid-bits in various tweets and comments and so on.<br /><br />I actually finally have a spark of an overarching theory of what's going on in this show. It has to do with reincarnation and other worlds. Basically it's that there are many parallel worlds (or timelines, or universes, or realities, whatever you want to call them). And that when you die, you are reincarnated into the next world, where you are you again, but you (and everyone) has the potential to do things differently. Like Groundhog Day, except with your whole life repeating instead of a single day. (The premiere was on Groundhog Day!) The worlds all exist at the same time, meaning that there isn't really anything like relative time between them, but we experience them one by one, normally. When the LOST characters time travel, whether it's Minkowski and Desmond's Billy Pilgrim style time travel or the donkey wheel's corporeal time travel, you actually aren't time traveling--you're world-hopping. So Jack and them didn't set off a bomb in their own world--they did it in the NEXT world, then returned to their own world. The smoke monster then is the entity whose job it is to judge whether you're worthy to stop reincarnating and enter Nirvana, and, if so, to deliver you there. (Like Mr. Eko). When he says he wants to go home, he means he wants to stop doing this and go to Nirvana himself. The island is where you go to get judged. Jacob's purpose is to bring people there for that purpose. It's also a place that is sort of like a barrier between the worlds, like CS Lewis's Wardrobe (and the Lamp Post is how you find your way back to the Wardrobe). And therefore people want to find it, and once they find it they form a cult-like obsession with it.<br /><br />I have a zillion little examples and things that fit into this theory, but I won't bore you with them. Not sure if it all hangs together yet, because I'm sure there is a lot more information yet to be provided, but it's the closest thing I've ever had to a working theory so I thought I'd put it out in the world.<br /><br />The other theory is more specific, and began with a coworker's interpretation of the episode title, "LA X". It is that the new version of Flight 815 we're seeing, the one we've been referring to as the 2004 reality, is actually in 2010. If things in the new timeline can be different because of a butterfly effect begun in 1977, why not the year as well? Thus the title means "Los Angeles '10." Then I remembered that Mo Ryan tweeted a couple weeks back a neat little thing that if you search for a non-stop flight from SYD to LAX on 9/22/2010, you get Oceanic 815. Which is true (and fun!) I figured it was just for fun and obviously it's not like you could search for 2004 so they just did this year. But maybe it's actually a clue! Only real problem with this theory is that I have no idea WHY they'd make it 2010 in the new timeline other than to finally catch some part of the show up with those of us who are watching it. And/or Walt's age.<br /><br />I'll be rewatching with these two theories in mind.christynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-3800093648237444862010-02-05T12:38:23.588-05:002010-02-05T12:38:23.588-05:00So how does Cindy fit into this?
- In season 2 on ...<i>So how does Cindy fit into this?<br />- In season 2 on the beach, Mr. Eko asked Cindy to watch over the children<br />- She was taken right away with the children by the Others, was seen in later episodes peacefully with the Others when they ere in the Dharma village; she brought the children to observe Jack in the cage; and now, she is seen holding the children's hands at the Temple. There is an undeniable connection between Cindy and the children.</i><br />Cindy wasn't taken right away. She was with the Tailies throughout their trek acorss the Island to join the other survivors. She disappeared mysteriously moments before Ana-Lucia shot Shannon.Felicityhttp://felicityk.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-39087484328913520702010-02-05T02:34:55.936-05:002010-02-05T02:34:55.936-05:00One potential interesting scene that could happen ...One potential interesting scene that could happen in the alternate time line...we might get to meet the couple in LA that was going to adopt Claire's baby...Benjamin Standighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10494959895438125926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-56206804268413300832010-02-05T01:07:20.434-05:002010-02-05T01:07:20.434-05:00Thank you, drbristol. I have been confusing manif...Thank you, drbristol. I have been confusing manifestations with sightings of people. I must keep better track of these things. Maybe I need a spreadsheet :-)IreneInIdahonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54690867581706694632010-02-04T21:52:39.873-05:002010-02-04T21:52:39.873-05:00"We saw Christian with Claire after she disap..."We saw Christian with Claire after she disappeared in the jungle, abandoning Aaron. Season 4 or 5?"<br /><br />Irene in Idaho...we've seen a manifestation of Christian all over the place (with Claire, with Jack, talking to Lapidus and Sun, etc.) but not his <b>body</b> - as in corpse, like we have seen Locke's. We saw Jack identify his body in the morgue, but we have not seen his corpse on the Island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-9733633324337473792010-02-04T21:41:21.435-05:002010-02-04T21:41:21.435-05:00Speaking of the love triangle, and as someone who ...Speaking of the love triangle, and as someone who is bored to tears with it (pretty much thanks to a lack of interest in two-thirds of the parties involved, not out of some righteous stance against love triangles in storytelling)... <br /><br />I accept that we have to put up with it to some extent.<br /><br />As long as TV writers are collecting paychecks, love triangles and father issues are two things with which I expect to be beaten about the head in any program that isn't a half-hour sitcom. <br /><br />But when they're operating in multiple timelines where the characters are all interacting both on the island and off, I fear we're going to end up with the love triangle popping up in both narratives. Which is a bit much.<br /><br />So, I accept it in the 2007 timeline (and, it feels more tolerable with the air taken out of the balloon a little bit, what with Jack having already had his shot with Kate, and Sawyer having seemed content to end up with Juliet). In the 2004 timeline, though, I'm rooting for Kate to quickly be killed by the authorities trying to apprehend her. Or maybe, in this version of history, somebody stepped on a butterfly 3 decades ago and Kate ended up a huge lesbian who won't have eyes for Jack and Sawyer this time around. Not holding my breath, though.J.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11999053649820732449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-49557969887527390222010-02-04T18:01:09.142-05:002010-02-04T18:01:09.142-05:00The Lost experience is not done until I read your ...The Lost experience is not done until I read your blog. Thank you very much!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85209400787027122352010-02-04T16:31:51.846-05:002010-02-04T16:31:51.846-05:00One man's boredom is another woman's swoon...<i>One man's boredom is another woman's swoon :-)</i><br /><br />If you're talking to me, I'm a girl. So that would be "One woman's boredom" :-) And I've swooned for triangles before, but I find the J/K/S one deadly dull, especially now that we've seen Sawyer in a mature, loving relationship. Him going back to Kate would be a regression, IMHO.deznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-6580680984821778472010-02-04T14:52:29.233-05:002010-02-04T14:52:29.233-05:00I absolutely don't understand why so many peop...I absolutely don't understand why so many people (and I'm thinking primarily of the hatefest going on over at Slate) complain about characters coming back from the dead on LOST.<br /><br />Um... that hasn't happened. Ever.<br /><br />Boone? Stayed dead. Shannon? Still dead. Libby? Never came back. Mr. Eko? You get the picture.<br /><br />Now, sure, Christian has appeared. But the show would make no sense to anyone who simply assumed that was just Christian, despite his "say hello to my son" line. That was Jacob, or MIB, or... well, it almost certainly wasn't just some surgeon from the States.<br /><br />Ditto all the visions Hurley's had. Visions of a crazy guy or ghosts, like the ones Miles can talk to. Nobody came back from the dead.<br /><br />The only character who appeared to have come back was Locke -- and even Ben was blown away by how unprecedented that was.<br /><br />And then it turned out he didn't come back after all!<br /><br />There have been some game changers in this show, but I haven't seen anywhere near the amount that others seem to have. The rules have stayed the rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-44698700195068127582010-02-04T14:48:31.152-05:002010-02-04T14:48:31.152-05:00So, to tie it all together, at some point Taweret ...So, to tie it all together, at some point Taweret became the demon-wife of Apep, and there are a lot of similarities between Apep and the Man in Black:<br /><br />1. Apep is the evil god of darkness/chaos, battling with the god of order and truth (Ma'at, who is also known as RaR. There is a constant duality and battle of good vs. evil / light vs. dark / black vs white, so much that he is known as "Man in Black"<br /><br />2. He had epic battles with Ra, the sun god. LOST has made no secret that the sun god is important. All of the references to the single "eye" and the hieroglyphics of the Eye of Horus (Ra) radiating to other gods/deities/characters.<br /><br />3. Apep takes the form of a serpent/snake/dragon, which is not unlike the Smoke Monster in the way it slithers and moves and attacks.<br /><br />4. Apep, as the serpent used a magical gaze to hypnotize Ra and his defenders. This reminds me of the way Smoke Monster would scan the victim, project images and manipulate that person into believing/seeing certain things which affects how that person acts.<br /><br />5. Part of the ways to help defeat Apep included making wax figurines (all of the "candle" references?), and also stabbing them with knives (Locke's knives perhaps?)<br />---------------------------------<br /><br />Now, I can't predict what is going to happen, but the more I read about Taweret/Apep/Ra, the more connections are seen with the characters and all of the minor coincidences on the show. I was surprised by how much I thought of Cindy and her connections while reading it and so I think she will be a major player down the road.stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-33509548640903252312010-02-04T14:48:16.190-05:002010-02-04T14:48:16.190-05:00I have a feeling that Cindy, the flight attendant ...I have a feeling that Cindy, the flight attendant is extremely important for a few reasons<br /><br />It is well-established that the four-toed statue is that of Taweret, the Egyptian goddess of fertility. Throughout the entire series, there has been an importance placed on the children and fertility: why were Zach and Emma taken? Why can't women conceive and give birth on the island? Why are Walt and Aaron special? All in all, it's clear that there's something important or intended for the children. This is cemented by the fact that Zach and Emma were at the Temple in the last episode.<br /><br />So how does Cindy fit into this?<br />- In season 2 on the beach, Mr. Eko asked Cindy to watch over the children<br />- She was taken right away with the children by the Others, was seen in later episodes peacefully with the Others when they ere in the Dharma village; she brought the children to observe Jack in the cage; and now, she is seen holding the children's hands at the Temple. There is an undeniable connection between Cindy and the children.<br /><br />Additionally here are some more connections/coincidences<br /><br />- Her name is Cindy Chandler. LOST loves anagrams and it's apparent that "child" or "children" can be found in her name. In fact, her name creates the anagram "Candy Children." Now, I have no idea what that means, probably nothing. In a humorous stretch, perhaps the candy signifies something sweet and perhaps innocent. Who knows? But it's more interesting that child/children is in her full name.<br /><br />- Per wikipedia, Taweret was also referred to as "mistress of the horizon." Cindy was the flight attendant on Oceanic 815, attending to the needs of the passengers on the plane in the sky. This furthers my belief that Jacob tapped Cindy (hi-oh!) to be on that plane and ensure that things went according to plan (whatever was that plan)<br /><br />- Another anagram note: a "chandler" is someone who makes candles, something that has been referenced in many names (Marvin Candle, Haliwax). I'm not sure that this connects with my theory, just that it furthers the referencing to candles (light?)<br /><br />Finally, here is a continuation of the Egyptian mythology:<br />- According to wikipedia, [quote]When paired with another deity, she became the demon-wife of Apep, the original god of evil.[/quote] So who is Apep?<br /><br />- Well, according to wikipedia, again, Apep [quote]was an evil demon, the deification of darkness and chaos (isfet in Egyptian), and thus opponent of light and Ma'at (order/truth),[/quote]<br /><br />More on Apep: [quote]Consequently, since Atum-Ra, who was later referred to simply as Ra, was the solar deity, bringer of light, and thus the upholder of Ma'at, Apep was viewed as the greatest enemy of Ra, and thus was given the title Enemy of Ra.<br /><br />"As the personification of all that was evil, Apep was seen as a giant snake/serpent, crocodile, or occasionally as a dragon in later years.[/quote]<br /><br />More<br />[quote]In his battles, Apep was thought to use a magical gaze to hypnotise Ra and his entourage, [/quote]<br /><br />And finally<br />[quote]In addition to stories about Apep's defeats, this guide had instructions for making wax models, or small drawings, of the serpent, which would be spat on, mutilated and burnt, whilst reciting spells that would aid Ra. Fearing that even the image of Apep could give power to the demon, any rendering would always include another deity to subdue the monster, and/or knives already stabbed into him.[/quote]stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-41319160467741447482010-02-04T14:37:01.334-05:002010-02-04T14:37:01.334-05:00"Or did he just know that the only way to def..."Or did he just know that the only way to defeat an immortal man who can turn into a smoke monster is with a communications expert-turned-torturer-turned-international-assassin with great hair?"<br /><br />Love it, Alan! I think that's exactly it.Anna Weaver Lopiccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197423494451183926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-91182228367172415822010-02-04T12:13:25.397-05:002010-02-04T12:13:25.397-05:00One man's boredom is another woman's swoon...One man's boredom is another woman's swoon :-)IreneInIdahonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73093525249838050992010-02-04T11:44:53.738-05:002010-02-04T11:44:53.738-05:00i dont know who she will end up with, but there wi...<i>i dont know who she will end up with, but there will be a triangle.</i><br /><br />Yeah, Darlton really has a hard-on for that particular boring bit of business.deznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-92088846396459250312010-02-04T06:58:13.560-05:002010-02-04T06:58:13.560-05:00Did anybody notice that in alternate 2004 Sayid ha...Did anybody notice that in alternate 2004 Sayid has an Iranian passport rather than an Iraqi passport?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74306784824529182112010-02-04T04:46:12.769-05:002010-02-04T04:46:12.769-05:00you kids have discussed everything already, my hea...you kids have discussed everything already, my head hurts a bit<br /><br />so i'll just say this. alan, they will go for the triangle stuff. in fact they already started it. they set it up last season during the incident... <br /><br />juliet catches sawyer looking at kate when bernard speaks of true love. she then decides it was best not to know him than eventually lose him.<br /><br />she gets trapped by those chains. who is the first person to rescue? kate. kate is the one who grabs the chains and prevents her from falling originally.<br /><br />then, new season. who is the one who hears juliet? kate.she then proceeds to show her support and be a friend to sawyer throughout the episode.<br /><br />then there's that final scene, with the sunlight and their love song playing, in which she tenderly wakes him and they act affectionately towards each other.<br /><br />the thing is, kate is the one who will be able to relink sawyer to the group. there's always the possibility that he'll do a rosseau, but somehow i doubt they'll have him wandering the jungle alone for an entire season.<br /><br />i dont know who she will end up with, but there will be a triangle.snapzraxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-67811897415053697172010-02-04T02:54:20.408-05:002010-02-04T02:54:20.408-05:00alan, i had been thinking all along (and someone w...alan, i had been thinking all along (and someone who commented in a season 5 post of yours; i just cant remember if you replied to it or not), that the reason juliet did not stay when the flashes happened is because she is not a native of the island anymore--she was ostracized / disowned in Strange in a Strange Land, remember? the Others marked her like a cow because she killed the Sawyer-hating Other Danny when Sawyer and Kate escaped from Alcatraz in Season3.<br /><br />Cindy and the kids have been accepted already into their society, thus they're already natives, which i think made them stay put during the flashes. The non-Other-anymore Juliet jumped with the Oceanic survivors during the flashes.caguioanessnoreply@blogger.com