tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post8887171037868797174..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: The Office, "Secretary's Day": C is for suspensionAlan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-39765164543463879412010-04-25T15:43:49.487-04:002010-04-25T15:43:49.487-04:00Add me to the list of folks who were baffled by Mi...Add me to the list of folks who were baffled by Michael's seemingly sudden and <i>extreme</i> dislike for Erin. That scene a few episodes back where Michael and Erin were reunited and dancing geekily to Michael's synthesizer sound machine was one of the sweetest and most likable moments in <i>Office</i> history, at least for me.<br /><br />I could understand if Michael was feeling lazy and felt "put upon" by the obligation to take Erin to lunch. But his absolute aversion to spending any time at all with her was a total mystery to me, and I found it very sad.Oaktown Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811331454878606058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-36740222998284152482010-04-25T09:18:07.815-04:002010-04-25T09:18:07.815-04:00Josh M., the issue of Pam and Secretary's Day ...Josh M., the issue of Pam and Secretary's Day is covered in a deleted scene you can watch on nbc.com and probably hulu too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-29345842551897969442010-04-24T22:22:45.771-04:002010-04-24T22:22:45.771-04:00I think they missed one good joke - Pam should hav...I think they missed one good joke - Pam should have been mad they never celebrated "Secretary's Day" when she held the job.Josh M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04054764121030646400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79361184540309288732010-04-24T20:35:55.640-04:002010-04-24T20:35:55.640-04:00Dwight's apology was by far the best part of t...Dwight's apology was by far the best part of this episode, though I enjoyed most of it. "I kiss your hand as a sign of contrition..."<br /><br />I nearly died. No, literally. I was drinking some water when I saw that and I choked. Seriously. <br /><br />Good episode. Not quite "The Delivery" or "Happy Hour", but good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74214882669434626342010-04-24T09:21:17.044-04:002010-04-24T09:21:17.044-04:00I think the Michael / Erin discomfort felt very co...I think the Michael / Erin discomfort felt very contrived, and I believe last year's <i>Cafe Disco</i> ep is why.<br /><br />Finding Michael Scott fun and/or entertaining is social currency for him. I would think the blast the two of them had together in that episode would have cemented the friendship forever, and I don't think Michael would just forget about it (in fact, I think he would cling to any memory of someone treating him so favorably). <br /><br />His mere "tolerance" of her didn't work.King Killer Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535324911958936493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-63335938359011714632010-04-24T08:46:43.912-04:002010-04-24T08:46:43.912-04:00Just wanted to throw something out there, if a bit...Just wanted to throw something out there, if a bit late, concerning the debate over the Michael/Erin dynamic. It was pretty evident to me that this shifted, to the degree that it did, because Erin was genuinely excited over getting to asked to a Secretary's Day lunch by her boss, and hence felt free to open up to him. Michael, for his part, already nonplussed over the obligatory ritual, was transparently annoyed by Erin's endless blather. This wasn't a contradition to earlier characterization, it was a natural adjustment. <br /><br />It also just so happened that we got a sudden, unusually potent dose of new Erin weirdness as she felt free to chatter on about topics that generally interest six-year-olds, which I thought was wonderful and a welcome expansion of her character.Scott Hollifieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16742475122463935240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79901620060604220882010-04-24T03:49:48.492-04:002010-04-24T03:49:48.492-04:00Jim and Pam were likable this episode, they were a...Jim and Pam were likable this episode, they were a bit smug earlier this season when Jim was co-manager but this episode I found them likable again. <br /><br />I love the "Precious" jokeforg/jecouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425297400304281063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-14101032055378053782010-04-24T01:52:25.983-04:002010-04-24T01:52:25.983-04:00What did Jim and Pam do to become more unlikable i...What did Jim and Pam do to become more unlikable in this episode? I've heard this complaint a lot this season, but I haven't seen what people find so objectionable about them.Col Bat Guanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11701639208292077115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-49874559296580389382010-04-24T00:16:23.935-04:002010-04-24T00:16:23.935-04:00Come on guys! The funniest line in the episode is ...Come on guys! The funniest line in the episode is definitely:<br /><br />"If it wasn't for secretaries, I wouldn't have a stepmother"- Andy BernardMayn Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783028600879817637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-29320629211009118422010-04-24T00:11:59.363-04:002010-04-24T00:11:59.363-04:00Not a bad episode compared to some of the others t...Not a bad episode compared to some of the others this season. I agree, it always nice when Michael acts halfway normal, as opposed to the hard to watch Date Mike. That being said, I have no idea where this show is going. The Erin/Andy thing is a nice side story, but it should never be the main plot to any episode. They are not Jim and Pam. Speaking of whom, those two grow more and more unlikeable every show. The sad thing is there is no other substantial angle they can go with them besides infidelity, which I really don't see happening. They used to be the driving force of the show. Now they are no more interesting than Kevin or Phyllis. I say they do one more season, have Michael and Holly reunite and get married, and call it a day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-1116543880927016352010-04-23T18:52:36.099-04:002010-04-23T18:52:36.099-04:00Secretary's Day... wow. They really use holida...Secretary's Day... wow. They really use holidays as a crutch way too often over at The Office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-21012151123221145882010-04-23T18:30:17.789-04:002010-04-23T18:30:17.789-04:00It is getting harder and harder to suspend my disb...It is getting harder and harder to suspend my disbelief that Angela hasn't been ridden out of the office on a rail, or at least gotten the living **** beaten out of her. She cheated on Andy the entire time they were engaged and SHE's embarrassed people knew they had sex (just like they knew the worst details of her and Dwight's fornicating)? Needless to say, the details of what happened with Andy would probably have made a sane person understand why he didn't talk about it (not sure that covers Erin so much at this point), so of course she didn't share them at a point where it would have helped him. I get that Angela is who she is, and having her being nice would be as bad for show continuity as a focused Creed, a well-mannered Meredith, an ascetic Kevin, etc. But it's bad when a character is this unlikable this consistently and both fans and the other characters have to pretend there's a good reason she's still tolerated by them. Michael's the boss, Dwight is a good salesperson, Ryan's no longer central enough for his behavior to matter to anyone. What's the rationale for Angela?DolphinFannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-25683918901307861442010-04-23T16:33:15.603-04:002010-04-23T16:33:15.603-04:00I got the impression that it was Gabe who went to ...I got the impression that it was Gabe who went to Kevin in the hopes of using the situation to assert himself in the office, which would solve the "Why didn't Kevin go to Toby?" issue.Ted Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486771226983390342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-88097411689348272982010-04-23T16:28:15.826-04:002010-04-23T16:28:15.826-04:00Twice. Angela & Andy had sex twice. He says ...Twice. Angela & Andy had sex twice. He says it in the Duel episode.iamnoahjames.comhttp://iamnoahjames.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-68170805729395584012010-04-23T15:29:42.140-04:002010-04-23T15:29:42.140-04:00Going to completely geek out over here- Andy and A...Going to completely geek out over here- Andy and Angela did have sex, I think once. Dwight was under the impression that he was her only sex partner then when all the **** hit the fan felt betrayed when Andy revealed there had been actual sex involved.AbbyGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-66950990098564430462010-04-23T14:35:03.201-04:002010-04-23T14:35:03.201-04:00did Angela and Andy ever have sex?
She admitted t...<i>did Angela and Andy ever have sex?</i><br /><br />She admitted to Erin that they had <i>sensual</i> relations, but didn't mention sex.Dave Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-54515770053835949972010-04-23T14:30:57.474-04:002010-04-23T14:30:57.474-04:00Gabe reminds me a lot of Guy MacKendrick, the new ...Gabe reminds me a lot of Guy MacKendrick, the new owners' rep on "Mad Men."<br /><br />He'd better hope Michael never brings a lawnmower into the office.BigTednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85031842841408302592010-04-23T14:17:44.739-04:002010-04-23T14:17:44.739-04:00interestingly, i had the same reaction to the Mich...interestingly, i had the same reaction to the Michael/Erin dynamic as Alan, but after reading the comments here, i did start to think back to their past interactions and it seems like the evolution does make sense. it's also important to remember that Erin has actually gotten weirder the longer we've known her. at first she seemed naive and wide-eyed, but fairly normal...but we've since seen that she has some very unusual quirks! (not that i'm bashing the character...i think she's been a great addition!)leorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04498938749074364613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-26867588967954231122010-04-23T13:11:07.789-04:002010-04-23T13:11:07.789-04:00I remember the reason Dwight ended his "duel&...I remember the reason Dwight ended his "duel" with Andy last season was because Andy said that he had slept with Angela twice and Dwight thought she was only sleeping with him and had cheated on him with her fiance(awesome twisted logic!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-4241953651810641232010-04-23T12:56:39.937-04:002010-04-23T12:56:39.937-04:00Hmm...not nearly as good as "Happy Hour"...Hmm...not nearly as good as "Happy Hour" (I mean, who can resist the charm of Date Mike?), but it was nice to be reminded of Angela. The last episode focused on her continued interest on Dwight and after this, it's quite apparent that she really didn't have significant feelings for Andy despite their engagement.<br /><br />Now I thought that one of the big jokes was that Andy and Angela never actually had sex. I remember Andy saying something a few years back about how he wanted to work on his six pack for the wedding night since it would be the first time Angela would have seen him naked.<br /><br />Anyways, you can find the rest of my thoughts on this episode on my blog including my favourite lines, favourite exchange, and favourite mental snapshots. Click my username for the link.tribalismhttp://wordbribery.com/the-office-secretarys-day/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-45668451482444533282010-04-23T12:53:34.525-04:002010-04-23T12:53:34.525-04:00My wife and I thought the episode was fine but I w...My wife and I thought the episode was fine but I was bugged by a very different continuity problem: did Angela and Andy ever have sex? IIRC, Angela always kept him at arm's length during their engagement and, as we found out later, she was only having sex with Dwight. <br /><br />This issue ties into my larger problem with how much Andy has changed over the years. I suppose we can write this off to his time in anger management, but he bears almost no resemblance to the hound we met in season 3.Ryan Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-72584331768706125922010-04-23T12:08:49.056-04:002010-04-23T12:08:49.056-04:00I thought this episode was really entertaining and...I thought this episode was really entertaining and a lot of credit goes to Ellie Klempfer's acting (hope I didn't mangle her name too much) and Mindy Kaling's script.<br /><br />Confession: I couldn't stand either Andy or Erin until they got together and then, somehow, they just clicked for me so I hope they find their way back together.<br /><br />Oddly enough, I found Erin's hair scene very touching. She's weird but in a uniquely endearing way. As for Michael, it always seemed to me that he couldn't stand her, that as someone else pointed out, Michael desperately wants to hang with the cool kids and doesn't consider Erin one of them. <br /><br />After watching this episode, I've decided that Cookie Monster is far more lively in his speech than Kevin is. Also, Creed and Meredith belong together---their creepiness knows no bounds.<br /><br />Word Verification: Hystorba, Zorba's highly-strung older brotherrksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-46931257901273589172010-04-23T12:08:11.823-04:002010-04-23T12:08:11.823-04:00I don't have much else to say that others have...I don't have much else to say that others haven't said, but Mindy Kaling has always had a somewhat different take on Erin than the other writers, in my opinion. Nevertheless, I thought this was one Kaling's better scripts, in recent memory. It did some things well that I don't usually attribute to her.<br /><br />I'm a bit disappointed that NBC hasn't posted some of Oscar's videos on its website yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-71447377291478798242010-04-23T11:48:04.984-04:002010-04-23T11:48:04.984-04:00"To go from that to "Secretary's Day..."To go from that to "Secretary's Day" just seems off."<br /><br />But isn't Michael Scott built completely around being "off?"Brianhttp://www.regularguycolumn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-70520471601774468312010-04-23T10:58:06.552-04:002010-04-23T10:58:06.552-04:00Why would Jim and Pam want 2 extra days off paid? ...Why would Jim and Pam want 2 extra days off paid? They are in sales. They get paid commission. If they take 2 more days off from work, then they don't make sales and don't get commission.Mark S.http://whatmarkread.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com