tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post902347543030985123..comments2024-03-28T18:01:28.997-04:00Comments on What's Alan Watching?: Chuck, "Chuck vs. the Seduction": I'm flesh and blood, life-size, no larger!Alan Sepinwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-57171394197244904172008-10-13T06:14:00.000-04:002008-10-13T06:14:00.000-04:00Hey T and Pamela, you're more than welcome to talk...Hey T and Pamela, you're more than welcome to talk about Grey's Anatomy, but could you please do it in one of the Grey's Anatomy posts?Alan Sepinwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388147774725646742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-682025118145942562008-10-13T03:08:00.000-04:002008-10-13T03:08:00.000-04:00Hee. Along those lines (of incremental character d...Hee. Along those lines (of incremental character development), I got a kick of Cristina's line in the flood ep to the effect that she can't give honest opinions anymore because she is being (air quotes) supportive.tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-5245101162025392962008-10-13T01:46:00.000-04:002008-10-13T01:46:00.000-04:00every now and then, Cristina grows a little bit. I...every now and then, Cristina grows a little bit. It's fun to watch.<BR/>Last year she was so depressed she was in the morgue singing...Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-65539626166059391192008-10-13T00:50:00.000-04:002008-10-13T00:50:00.000-04:00I'm amazed that they (the writers, I guess) have m...I'm amazed that they (the writers, I guess) have managed to remain consistent with regard to Cristina (the most awesome character, IMO) _without_ having the character become one-note or played out. I really don't know how they do it. Aside from being highly proficient and hard-core about her job, and slightly misanthropic, her defining characteristic is that she's realistic, pragmatic, unemotional and perhaps cynical about pretty much everything. (She's like House.) How this hasn't become old by now I do not know.tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-507538926310798712008-10-13T00:36:00.000-04:002008-10-13T00:36:00.000-04:00the psychiatrist isn't letting go. ;-) and, as she...the psychiatrist isn't letting go. ;-) and, as she says, Mer is making progress. I like what Alex says - that Mer gives him hope that messed up people can make it. (even though Alex is more positive and less verbally hanging on to his baggage than Mer is - he still shoots himself in the foot at every (other) chance. I have hope for all of them. After all - it's season 5, so they only have these three seasons to sort it out. And they have to live happily ever after in the end - <BR/>after all, it's Disney.Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-79688239899316145372008-10-12T22:00:00.000-04:002008-10-12T22:00:00.000-04:00Great! This is the heart of it, I think, that he i...Great! This is the heart of it, I think, that he isn't all woe-is-me all the time. So I think I'll give the show another try, especially since you've reminded me of the Adam Baldwin goodness (_loved_ him in Firefly/Serenity).<BR/><BR/>(Re: Meredith, yeah, but last ep she was (what passes in her mind for) happy for exactly one second and instantly dropped the psychiatrist. Oh, SPOILER, I guess.)tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-24626507315066547902008-10-12T21:54:00.000-04:002008-10-12T21:54:00.000-04:00A harried protagonist is not necessarily a draw fo...<I>A harried protagonist is not necessarily a draw for me, especially the closer it edges toward (passive) victimhood. I guess this is tricky, since _conflict_ (of course) is a requirement(?) for any sort of narrative. [And Meredith Grey, for me, is perhaps the least interesting/engaging character in the show, despite being the putative protagonist (she is, right?).]</I><BR/><BR/>yes, she is. and I meant to add that there was really no comparison, as a comparison to Meredith is, for most people, *not* a plus. I know this.<BR/><BR/>Chuck, on the other hand (and, oh, let me say that if you've never seen Adam Baldwin toss a microwave, you've missed out!) started off rather hangdoggy - or at least victimy, but I think that now he's more... well, he refuses to "wait in the car" (a phrase that, if said any more often in this show, could become its own drinking game)<BR/><BR/>Chuck *tries.* He doesn't always succeed, but he doesn't spend a lot of time anymore crying in the corner. (and btw, Meredith has been to therapy. things are looking up). Chuck can be creative in saving himself, his friends, his protectors, the world, or the agencies' property. He can think fast (okay, his writers can make it appear as if he can - having, themselves, who knows how long to come up with a solution that he has seconds to come up with)<BR/><BR/>I'm going to reiterate the Adam Baldwin is funny thing, cause it's just a major plus. (and I honestly can't remember the second episode of Chuck - but Chuck and the Alma Mater was really fun - after a while. It did start out very woe is me, but ended up stunning. It answered some things and it was funny (to me).Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-64174338114056645682008-10-12T21:21:00.000-04:002008-10-12T21:21:00.000-04:00*Charles*Charlestabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-74669771663044467822008-10-12T21:19:00.000-04:002008-10-12T21:19:00.000-04:00Yeah, Josh has to be Lemon-Lyman, I think, with a ...Yeah, Josh has to be Lemon-Lyman, I think, with a little Sorkin actor/character fuzzy overlap with Josh Carles of Sports Night. Anf there's only one Joss =)tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-35197394495489565782008-10-12T21:15:00.000-04:002008-10-12T21:15:00.000-04:00Regarding 12:01, I see that Jonathan Silverman was...Regarding 12:01, I see that Jonathan Silverman was in it--a guy whose main asset, in my mind, is a tendency to get confused with Rob Morrow. [/ducks to avoid rotten fruit thrown by rabid fans of either actor]<BR/><BR/>Re: humor, quips, irony, dialogue: I completely agree: these are a big part of whether or not I end up liking a show. Re: "beaten up by life"--this part I'm less sure about. A harried protagonist is not necessarily a draw for me, especially the closer it edges toward (passive) victimhood. I guess this is tricky, since _conflict_ (of course) is a requirement(?) for any sort of narrative. [And Meredith Grey, for me, is perhaps the least interesting/engaging character in the show, despite being the putative protagonist (she is, right?).]tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-91052414192617008632008-10-12T21:03:00.000-04:002008-10-12T21:03:00.000-04:00wow... you know - my brother didn't have a TV for ...wow... you know - my brother didn't have a TV for 20 years, so he didn't watch TV... um... okay, the time periods of those shows don't fit that gap. let me try again.<BR/><BR/>I am, oddly, not a lover of Lucy. MTM - we watched it, however millions of years ago it was on, but it's not something that... I could barely tell you anything that happened. I don't find myself ever referring to it. Aside from the scene that St Elsewhere ripped for its finale.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, a conversation about "Josh" can take a few brain cycles to latch onto. (Groban, Lyman, wait, did he say Joss, maybe?)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-75085748493897034302008-10-12T20:52:00.000-04:002008-10-12T20:52:00.000-04:00...Big Bang Theory, Battlestar Galactica, Life, lo...<I>...Big Bang Theory, Battlestar Galactica, Life, loved The X-Files, Veronica Mars, The Wire, The Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Bones, The Office (both UK and US), Avatar, and Freak & Geeks.</I><BR/><BR/>wow. eclectic.<BR/><BR/>geeky underachiever would probably not be the Veronica Mars thing - *she* was an outcast.<BR/><BR/>I share your liking of Big Bang, Mad Men and Veronica Mars, unfortunately there probably isn't a common thing between them. (though VM and BB do have a sort of "not in the in crowd" thing going for them)<BR/>I can really say that the thing that drew me to VM was the outcast thing, and what held me was probably good dialog (as in almost Buffy good)<BR/>In the cases of VM, Chuck, and just the less geeky guy on BB, I'm definitely rooting for the main character to succeed. (I should toss in a plug for a movie called 12:01 at this point. geeky guy has to save the world and get the girl, over and over, and much less boring that Groundhog Day. this movie was so good (IMO) I remembered it for something like 15 years after having only seen it once. it's now out on DVD (anyone other than me ever heard of it?)<BR/><BR/>A lot of my liking of shows tends toward the emotional, but in the case of the above (not counting Mad Men) it's also the humor. I'm very fond of ironic humor, and I like quips - though I couldn't define a quip if you paid me.<BR/><BR/>I'm *not* a fan of Morgan - or almost anyone else at the Buy More, come to think of it. Casey, on the other hand, is really funny - and cares more than he thinks or wants to. Sarah... probably cares more too, but I really can't relate to her. I also like Captain Awesome - just for his name.<BR/><BR/>I'm not into spy shows as a rule, so it's not that. Chuck seems to have been beaten up a bit by life, and I can relate to that. and that's the closest I can get as I can't yet say - he's a very loyal friend (although that's probably true) which is one of the things that draws me to Meredith Grey (aside from the severe beating life has given *her* or Ally McBeal - who has only been slightly beaten and yet is neurotic anyway)<BR/><BR/>Oh and also, Chuck is cute. He's easy enough to look at, but I'm not drooling over him. He can be heroic when he needs to be, and that's good. I can't think of anything else, but probably someone else here can. (also, i'm not into SciFi, Fantasy (pardon the Buffy) or Crime Shows, so that thins the herd a lot).<BR/><BR/>Additionally my brother is a geek, and i'm marginally one myself. I love that they once sent Chuck out on a service call cause it was Linux (or was it Unix?) and no one else could do it. (and the booby trapper *knew* this) <BR/><BR/>that's all i have - for now.Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-11803334224338087392008-10-12T20:44:00.000-04:002008-10-12T20:44:00.000-04:00So I can only imagine that it's _impossible_ to ta...So I can only imagine that it's _impossible_ to talk about Mary Tyler Moore or Lucille Ball (who each had, over their careers, _several_ shows in which the actress and the character shared the same name).tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-22156038935905416852008-10-12T20:11:00.000-04:002008-10-12T20:11:00.000-04:00I liked Sarah in What About Brian (till they dumpe...I liked Sarah in What About Brian (till they dumped both her and the main conflict of the show) and also on Scrubs (which I would say she's still wearing, but she worked in the gift shop and therefore did not wear them)<BR/><BR/>unfortunately, the fact that a character on her show shares her name makes conversations about her confusing - in my familyPamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-47871423243021430542008-10-12T20:09:00.000-04:002008-10-12T20:09:00.000-04:00More relevantly, perhaps, I like Bones, love The O...More relevantly, perhaps, I like Bones, love The Office (both UK and US), and loved Avatar and Freak & Geeks. I don't _think_ I'm constitutionally incapable of rooting for a good guy with a good heart and identifying with geeky underachievers.tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-73682517644187251582008-10-12T20:02:00.000-04:002008-10-12T20:02:00.000-04:00To answer the question, I like Big Bang Theory, Ba...To answer the question, I like Big Bang Theory, Battlestar Galactica, Life, loved The X-Files, Veronica Mars, and of course (though not too relevant here) The Wire, The Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad.tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-28568015485920138512008-10-12T19:57:00.000-04:002008-10-12T19:57:00.000-04:00Sarah Lancaster--I thought she did a pretty good j...Sarah Lancaster--I thought she did a pretty good job in _Everwood_, too, despite the whole subplot (Ephram and Delia's nanny) being rather iffy.tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-85705310837208170982008-10-12T19:51:00.000-04:002008-10-12T19:51:00.000-04:00what other shows do you love?I love Chuck because ...what other shows do you love?<BR/><BR/>I love Chuck because it's funny and Chuck (the character) is a good guy who has a good heart, and maybe cause I can identify with smart, geeky, underachievers. <BR/><BR/>I also like the actress who plays his sister.Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-42147048067614948492008-10-12T18:09:00.000-04:002008-10-12T18:09:00.000-04:00Hi, everyone. Please forgive me in advance if this...Hi, everyone. Please forgive me in advance if this is a futile effort, but here it goes:<BR/><BR/>I'm suspicious of my own inability to like _Chuck_ (for a variety of reasons, but primarily because, from what I've gathered in an extremely unscientific way, the people who tend to love _Chuck_ tend to also love other shows that I _do_ love... Anyway.) So my request is that someone here _sell_ me on the show: tell me what they like about it, convince me to give it another try. I've watched the first two episodes. Does it get better down the line?<BR/><BR/>Thanks in advance for any help in this regard.tabernaclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270564558390860172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-87229038091618502542008-10-12T00:12:00.000-04:002008-10-12T00:12:00.000-04:00stunning.even after reading the post and all the c...stunning.<BR/><BR/>even after reading the post and all the comments, the captcha didn't time out.<BR/><BR/>GREAT BLOG IMPLEMENTATION! <BR/><BR/>thanks!<BR/><BR/>(from the temporarily input impaired)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-39888841117184424652008-10-12T00:10:00.000-04:002008-10-12T00:10:00.000-04:00so I'm ...so I'm finally here. love my DVR, itfinds whole new way fr me to typo.<BR/><BR/>neer saw MFY never heard of Gotcha, but letme say y brother bought Student Bodies aaand fterall these years - what a waste. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>(this is a remote control keyboard - fast forward often works this well too)<BR/><BR/>hey, at least i finally got to see it - wow i can touch type on my leg!<BR/><BR/>and wasn't cusstomer service referred to lasttttt season as "the Hole"?<BR/><BR/>let's see if i can postPamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-16860770131868032202008-10-11T02:05:00.000-04:002008-10-11T02:05:00.000-04:00which reminds me - i never did get to read that "b...which reminds me - i never did get to read that "best opening titles" post.<BR/><BR/>perhaps we could have a best commercials thread? (and i will read the other. really. must re-locate it first)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-51327817746532758512008-10-11T02:02:00.000-04:002008-10-11T02:02:00.000-04:00you know, i only thought of hulu about 7 minutes a...you know, i only thought of hulu about 7 minutes ago!<BR/><BR/>I think I finally found a torrent that will play. I shall have to watch a batch of commercials as penance :-) (but hey, maybe I can find some good commercials. after all, good commercials do exist. I have a batch on my DVR - I excised the programs they were in and kept the commercials. scuba diving cats, kitchens taking a priceless night off, Sarah Chalke and her undies, Fruit of the Loom singing folk songs..., Geico stuff (though I've lost Tiny House), some local Publix spots, and of course NPH's Old Spice Ad :-)<BR/><BR/>anyway, 2am. pout. no Chuck time now.<BR/>thanks for the hulu suggestion!<BR/>(I recently watched the original 90210 pilot there, and now the whole series seems to be gone...??)Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-40857841919375500092008-10-11T00:55:00.000-04:002008-10-11T00:55:00.000-04:00try hulu.com or amazon. if it won't work try downl...try hulu.com or amazon. if it won't work try downloading the torrent. =)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17517257.post-69125802345244406102008-10-11T00:29:00.000-04:002008-10-11T00:29:00.000-04:00I just got screwed by NBC.My DVR, being overworked...I just got screwed by NBC.<BR/>My DVR, being overworked, saw Chuck rerunning on Saturday and pushed the recording till then.<BR/><BR/>Tonight I checked the schedule and as I expected, tomorrow's Chuck has been replaced by some sort of special.<BR/><BR/>I don't have enough processor on my laptop to play it off nbc.com and my desktop is Linux.<BR/><BR/>so far, none of the other means I've tried will even play.<BR/><BR/>Thanks NBC.Pamela Jayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135379188588301400noreply@blogger.com